Re: Socratic Trolling

Posted by gepr on Feb 21, 2018; 11:34pm
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/the-pseudoscience-of-evolutionary-psychology-tp7591207p7591269.html

I expect that I've posted this before.  But still, my favorite contribution to this topic is here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20070609085706/http://www.sm.luth.se/~torkel/eget/net.html


On 02/21/2018 11:26 AM, Steven A Smith wrote:

> In my last contribution to the EvoPsych thread I referenced the following paper:
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> https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-the-american-philosophical-association/article/aristotle-on-trolling/540BB557C82186C33BFFB61E35A0B5B6/core-reader
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> and accused him of "Socratic Trolling".  I of course, meant that in the kindest of ways.  
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> From the Excerpt: [...]
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> I have long been aware that what we often call "trolls" can be beneficial to a group, and appreciate the description provided above.  I have seen very little *if any* real (destructive?) trolling on this list which I believe remains > 600 strong despite the vocal subset only being roughly a few dozen.
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> I also wonder at the relation between a "Troll" and a "Trickster <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickster>"... where the Trickster is credited with having both secret knowledge and even sometimes powers.   The Trickster is more ambiguous in his/her good/evil role, but the above description of the possibilities within a Troll suggests that a Troll might well have an aspect of Trickster built in.   The most obvious shared feature is the ambiguity of in-group/out-group status...   which is one of the things that defines a Shaman.  In all cases, one must be "insider" enough to understand the in-group well enough to be relevant but "outsider" enough to be capable of having enough perspective and motivation to operate outside of the group norms.

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