Posted by
Steve Smith on
Oct 22, 2016; 6:15pm
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/Unix-Nightmare-tp7587974p7587985.html
Lee -
>>> Good lord, Frank. Surely you are teasing me. How could your memory of a
>>> dream not be accurate?!
> I thought it was widely believed by Psychologists (as it is certainly believed by *me*) that
> one commits an error (a category error, perhaps? or an error of attribution?) if one thinks of
> "a dream" as some thing that existed--or some act that was undertaken--before one awakes,
> which can thereafter be "remembered"; rather, the behavior that one (mis)names "remembering
> the dream I just awoke from" is actually the conjunction of two behaviors--"dreaming while
> half-awake" and "attributing the quality of 'rememberance of the past' to 'awareness of an on-
> going behavior'" (pardon the awkward phrasings). Of course, often one also "thinks about a
> dream" when one is fully awake (or going back to sleep), and that behavior may be (or
> incorporate) actually remembering an earlier behavior of the previous type.
Damn fine articulation of this belief/perspective. I am a connoisseur
of hypnagogic and hypnapompic states and often deliberately arrange my
life for it to be a little slow in falling off and waking up for these
reasons.
I have examples of dreams where the real world impinged (sounds or
smells) which I incorporated into the linearized, causal experience of
the dream out of time.... meaning I "made up a good reason leading up
to an event in the dream that fit the data"... for most... practical
purposes, I am "remembering" a compressed virtual real-world experience
that I "had"... but I ascribe to the ideas you present that such
memories aren't what they seem to be.
And I liked your contrast between the two extremes in a forum such as
this of "vacuous" vs "rambling"...
- Steve
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