Posted by
gepr on
Sep 08, 2016; 9:32pm
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/Wisdom-of-Crowds-vs-Kenneth-Arrow-tp7587842p7587849.html
Re: Clinton's machine:
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-data-campaign-elan-kriegel-214215"And overnight, in some of the few hours that headquarters isn’t whirring with activity, the team’s computers run 400,000 simulations of the fall campaign in what amounts to a massive stress-test of the possibilities on Nov. 8."
Compared to Trump's machine:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2016/09/08/inside-the-collapse-of-trumps-d-c-policy-shop/ "'It’s a complete disaster,” one disgruntled former adviser told me. 'They use and abuse people. The policy office fell apart in August when the promised checks weren’t delivered.' ... 'The New York office realized that their candidate would not be receptive to that level of intense preparation,' one former adviser said."
And:
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/election/donald-trump/article100189937.html"All the support might come as a shock to Trump: His campaign has no Miami office."
In the end, by failing to exercise the Republican machine (at least in any whole sense), Trump _is_ helping to open the door for 3rd parties by letting the R-machine atrophy. But such a 3rd partier will have to avoid gaffs like #whatisaleppo and disinfo memes like Stein's wifi, gmo, and vaccination. In short, this game has absolutely nothing to do with the idealistic system(s) framing Arrow's or Condorcet's propositions. And that may partially explain why markets would be more robust predictors.
I think I may vote for his squidliness after all:
https://cthulhuforamerica.com/On 09/07/2016 09:54 AM, ┣glen┫ wrote:
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> On 09/07/2016 07:39 AM, Steven A Smith wrote:
>> As a side note, I am disappointed with how little traction either Gary or Jill are getting this time around. As UNpopular as both of the primary candidates are, and as relatively acceptable (both Jill and Gary seem to have serious intentions, serious campaigns and serious platforms) candidates are, why don't we see higher/growing polling numbers? Is it the ominosity of the elections themselves? Everyone is afraid of creating a "spoiler"?
>
> It requires a _machine_. And Clinton seems to have such a machine. Trump does, too, a bit Rube Goldberg, whereas Clinton's shows evidence of serious engineering (... though that's an insult to Rube Goldberg).
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