Re: Anyone from England

Posted by Jochen Fromm-5 on
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/Anyone-from-England-tp7587584p7587599.html

The NY Times has a nice overview how Britain has voted in detail
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/06/24/world/europe/how-britain-voted-brexit-referendum.html

Regards 
Jochen


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From: Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]>
Date: 6/26/16 04:39 (GMT+01:00)
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Anyone from England

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/683415/Angela-Merkel-BritainBrexit-negotiations-should-not-rushed-olive-branch

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On Jun 25, 2016 7:53 PM, "Nick Thompson" <[hidden email]> wrote:

Thanks, frank.  I will look for that.  N

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

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Clark University

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From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 9:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Anyone from England

 

They're annoyed (pissed) but the latest news was that Merkel said "not so fast".

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On Jun 25, 2016 7:30 PM, "Nick Thompson" <[hidden email]> wrote:

Anybody –

 

I am sorry – my message confounded an internal conservative party election with a national parliamentary election.  The question I thought gill was asking was, “Shouldn’t this crisis lead to a dissolution of parliament?” The answer is, not unless a significant minority of the Conservative party votes against its new chosen leader. 

 

One surprising event today was the demand by EU leaders that the UK invoke article 50 immediately.  Does anybody know why they are doing that? 

 

Nick

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Nick Thompson [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 3:59 PM
To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [FRIAM] Anyone from England

 

Boy, Howdy, did Cameron Mess up!

 

So, he now loses his premiership to the right wing of his own party.  Scotland, and perhaps N. Ireland, will now opt out of the UK in a few years, leaving England a teensy libertarian paradise under Boris Johnson. 

 

Gill, here is how I think the parliamentary system works.  Cameron resigns.  That precipitates an election for party leader amongst the conservatives.  If that goes smoothly, there is no election.  If that is bloody, and some faction of the Conservatives is willing to join Labor in a vote of no confidence, THAT will precipitate an election. 

 

Parliament is sovereign in the UK.  So, a new parliament could do anything it wanted, including, presumably, not leave the EU. 

 

I think that’s how it is.  I would love to be corrected.

 

Nick

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jochen Fromm
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 3:47 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Anyone from England

 

From what I heard David Cameron messed it up. He failed miserably. In order to get elected and to get rid of his right wing critics he promised the people this referendum where they can vote for or against the EU. If people had voted to remain in the EU it would have been a victory for him. It wasn't. He lost. 

 

Most of the "Brexit" voters voted against the EU because they are against immigrants and want to make Britain great again, much like Trump in US. Unfortunately it will not happen, the British Pound will drop, customs will raise and the UK will slide into a recession. EU funding for universities in the UK will stop. It looks pretty bad for Great Britain, as you can see in the reaction of the stock markets. 

 

TL;DR Cameron messed it up and everyone in Europe is a bit shocked about the result of the referendum.

 

Regards 

Jochen

 

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-------- Original message --------

From: Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]>

Date: 6/24/16 21:23 (GMT+01:00)

To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>

Subject: [FRIAM] Anyone from England

 

Care to speculate what's going on with this leave the EU thing?

 

I can guess but I might be wrong, I suppose I thought while the EU comes across as a discuntional family. I didn't know drama between England and the rest of Europe was so bad that they'd want to leave.

 

places like telegraph aren't exactly helping matters:

 

 

So anyone from England  have some opinions about what's going on?

Also as it is reported in America it's a close call of  48 to 50% unless I totally misunderstand parimentarian best practices I thought that's when they called for another vote or a simple majority?

Or am I wrong?

More importantly can I still move there if a certain delusional Sith think's he can do some good?not a sith lord, just a sith, he's got all the makings of a sith, just not a good one. 

:P

 

How's the beer and weather?

Where's a good place to live?

 

Anyway I hope all everyone has a day full of glory!

MUCH MERRIMENT AND REVELRY!

 

 


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