Our colleagues, Matt and Janire just skyped me up yesterday and were quite concerned about the implications for them...
Matt is from the UK, Janire from Spain, and they both attended
University in Wales and have been doing good business throughout
UK/EU/etc without any friction, thanks to the UK participation in
the EU. They are now very concerned that they will be
significantly constrained by the new situation.
They are also very unhappy with the general right-wing knee-jerk in progress (from their perspective) that htey feel rivals our own "Trumped up" stuff.
INteresting times!
From what I've read, young people overwhelmingly voted to stay. Unfortunately, if the exit is indeed bad from Great Britain, those same young people have to live with the consequences for the longest. Sometimes, I think that people should be given more than one vote, the number of votes being inversely proportional to age. Of course, that devalues any wisdom that may have accumulated by living long (perhaps not displayed in this vote). In any case, I hope they do decide to have a second referendum, following an open, vigorous debate on the issues that divide the people.
On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Frank Wimberly <[hidden email]> wrote:
According to Ali Velshi on CNN, people voted "leave" to express their anger (elites, immigration, economy) without actually understanding what they were voting for. The London Times published a list of the consequences and now over 2 million people have signed a petition calling for a revote.
Frank
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(505) 670-9918On Jun 25, 2016 1:59 PM, "Nick Thompson" <[hidden email]> wrote:
============================================================Boy, Howdy, did Cameron Mess up!
So, he now loses his premiership to the right wing of his own party. Scotland, and perhaps N. Ireland, will now opt out of the UK in a few years, leaving England a teensy libertarian paradise under Boris Johnson.
Gill, here is how I think the parliamentary system works. Cameron resigns. That precipitates an election for party leader amongst the conservatives. If that goes smoothly, there is no election. If that is bloody, and some faction of the Conservatives is willing to join Labor in a vote of no confidence, THAT will precipitate an election.
Parliament is sovereign in the UK. So, a new parliament could do anything it wanted, including, presumably, not leave the EU.
I think that’s how it is. I would love to be corrected.
Nick
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jochen Fromm
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 3:47 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Anyone from England
From what I heard David Cameron messed it up. He failed miserably. In order to get elected and to get rid of his right wing critics he promised the people this referendum where they can vote for or against the EU. If people had voted to remain in the EU it would have been a victory for him. It wasn't. He lost.
Most of the "Brexit" voters voted against the EU because they are against immigrants and want to make Britain great again, much like Trump in US. Unfortunately it will not happen, the British Pound will drop, customs will raise and the UK will slide into a recession. EU funding for universities in the UK will stop. It looks pretty bad for Great Britain, as you can see in the reaction of the stock markets.
TL;DR Cameron messed it up and everyone in Europe is a bit shocked about the result of the referendum.
Regards
Jochen
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From: Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]>
Date: 6/24/16 21:23 (GMT+01:00)
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: [FRIAM] Anyone from England
Care to speculate what's going on with this leave the EU thing?
I can guess but I might be wrong, I suppose I thought while the EU comes across as a discuntional family. I didn't know drama between England and the rest of Europe was so bad that they'd want to leave.
places like telegraph aren't exactly helping matters:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/eu-referendum-live-david-cameron-resigns-as-uk-shocks-the-world/
So anyone from England have some opinions about what's going on?
Also as it is reported in America it's a close call of 48 to 50% unless I totally misunderstand parimentarian best practices I thought that's when they called for another vote or a simple majority?
Or am I wrong?
More importantly can I still move there if a certain delusional Sith think's he can do some good?not a sith lord, just a sith, he's got all the makings of a sith, just not a good one.
:P
How's the beer and weather?
Where's a good place to live?
Anyway I hope all everyone has a day full of glory!
MUCH MERRIMENT AND REVELRY!
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