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Re: go programs

Posted by Marcus G. Daniels on Mar 13, 2016; 2:45pm
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/go-programs-tp7587292p7587293.html

I think a deep neural network trained from self play has a subjective, and even inscrutable inner representation.  Imagine such techniques were applied to public policy decisions or medical diagnosis.   Without a linguistic component that co-evolved to describe a taken action, one could be left with robot savants that outperformed humans on crucial tasks and no one, including the robot, would have any idea why.

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> On Mar 13, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Roger Critchlow <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> I've been watching parts of the match between Lee Sedol and Alpha Go on the youtube deepmind channel.  It's quite good, they start off with a discussion of the previous game, give running commentary during the game, and audibly gasp when the progress of the game shocks them.  The post match press conferences are not to be missed, either.  It's a completely trump free zone.
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> But you're looking at a full day's work for each game, 6 hours and 17 minutes of video from last night's game which Lee Sedol won.  I was too tired to stay up and watch so I tuned into youtube this morning and watched the endgame.
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> Apparently I forwarded past the key move, #78, which a Chinese journalist, quoting a Chinese commentator, called "a God's move".  Lee Sedol replied that it was the only move he had at the time, that he had thought it would be easier to make some profit, but it was quite difficult.
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> So the same play is described as both creative genius and inevitable in the space of a few sentences.  Glad to know that some things will never change.
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