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Re: Static Site Generator

Posted by Gillian Densmore on
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Is generator the right word?
It sounds like you want a system to manage files and folders, is that right? 

For what-what-it's-worth. HTML templates is a fine way to start. historically wordpress, drupal and the like were popular because, they just worked.. Though I'd say the same about good ol fation HTML. 

And also "right tool fer the job!"-Scotty and basically every pragmatist ever.

I'm concerned this is becoming a rabbit hole for you.On the one hand you're justifiably frustrated backspace went poof, on the other hand your fidgeting with technologies, and doodads that are basicaly in beta and sometimes work and others don't. 

 I have a pretty clear picture that won't end well, and you'll be sitting at a pub with some mead or beer or mumbling about why is this way to complicated everything sucks.

From what I gather when you started this thread you wanted to get backspaces(webpage) going, and basically have a way to blog and talk about cool things. That's cool and very much needed these days
Or am I wrong?
I'm a little confused now because you on one hand say you want a weby-helper, on the other say they all suck and I'ma make my own, while at the same time raving about folder'n File helpers, espousing the virtues of markdown. Grubber might be amused.

By all meens try to make a better content maker as a hobby. Just don't let it irk you, tinker while it's fun, then stop and surface.
How wever for backspaces(webywebysite) any ideas what would be good enough?^_^  It might be good enough to have a file and folder manager, and just use good ol fation HTML. 
There's a bunch of those from Kompozer to Htmly, and Sea Monky's Composer System , to Raptor probably lots of others such as Ubruco(however that's spelled) and Sympyany wich at one time was used by some big names such as Wired., 
 It might not be your taste though.

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 9:46 PM, Gary Schiltz <[hidden email]> wrote:
Have you started building the site generator?


On Monday, October 12, 2015, Owen Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:
I guess I should be clear about why I'm looking for a static site generator.

CMSs, to me, isolate me from my site. If I want to change to a different technology, I have to fight MySql & PHP, both pretty old and showing their flaws. I'm also separated from my content itself.  So if I have a markdown or latex core, then its fairly easy to change tech.

I also don't like the way CMSs force a lot of decisions on me. Their way or the highway.

I just took Ed Angel's WebGL Mooc and decided to make my own static generator.  A single html file for all assignments. Markdown for a div that explains the assignment and how to use it. A stunt that takes the markdown and derives the html page title and the page banner title. And naturally a canvas for webgl's use. And use of es6, modules, module loaders and lots more.

I can't see a CMS being that flexible. But site generators can be.  The single html page for them is a "template", generally 3: About, Home, and Pages.

   -- Owen

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:
To keep the conversation going and because I suspect you're doing the Cool Book On The Coffee Table stunt:



Try a few and see what you like.



On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:
Yes and no.

The short answer is that there are some file and folder systems out there.
Kirb that was mentioned is unique in that it's (sort of) shareware, It's my understanding so is pulse, and and grav.

For the most part there still in the 'for developers' stage. Where there are all manner of gotchas. The size of the community, and ease of support will very if your run into a Undocumented Feature. 

It seems as if they fall on a spectrum. On one end there's  On one end there's Grav, possibly Jekyll as well.
On the other end there's October.
Kirby, pulse and Wonder seem to be in the middle..



Its just files and folders, as far as I know just uses CSS to adjust it's look and feel






On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 11:16 PM, Russell Standish <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 11:16:55PM -0500, Gary Schiltz wrote:
> Hey Russell, in case it wasn’t clear, please understand that I was
> making a joke with a (probably overly obscured) compliment. I very
> much admire folks who use manual tools like LaTeX and Emacs, and also
> like a lot of what I know of Australian culture. Although “Crocodile
> Dundee” was an absurd stereotype of that culture, a lot of us
> Americans relate to the brash, no-BS character of that stereotype. And
> in case you didn’t see the movie, my comment referred to a scene where
> some American gang punk pulls a switchblade knife and threatens Dundee
> with it. Dundee says “Knife?”, pulls out a huge Bowie knife, holds it
> up, and says in that stereotyped accent, “Now, *that’s* a knife!”.
>

Sure I was aware of the scene. It was a fun movie. And Hoges's accent
was genuine, even though he doesn't normally talk that way, you do get
characters who talk like that.

Cheers


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