http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/Fun-Times-in-Ecuador-tp7586305p7586314.html
service since the 1980s, due to my choice of living in rural areas. It
connection in Pecos, starting in 2007 until I left the USA in 2008. Of
(are those technologies even used anymore?). Multi-megabit speed has
years or so. I really like Ubiquiti (www.ubnt.com), and it is the main
> Owen -
>
> I studied various wireless technologies designed for third-world
> environments when I was about to lose my (decent) internet provided by my
> pueblo (San Ildefonso) two years ago... I wanted to fill their void with an
> ISP/co-op but found a total lack of engagement from anyone in the mix.
> Three of us were the only ones who were willing (able?) to stand anything up
> and keep it running. Everyone else just wanted Comcast or QWest to "make it
> so" for them.
>
> The Canada de Los Alamos Co-Op was a cautionary tale for me as well... they
> were up and running and had decent numbers, but *still* suffered from spotty
> participation. Even my area is nowhere near a third-world situation, but
> has some similarities.
>
> The Village Telco (
http://villagetelco.org/) project was perhaps the most
> interesting for Stewart's work but I am sure he is completely aware of it.
> VOIP on top of mesh networks via their affordable solar-powered "mesh
> potato"!
>
> My interest in the HIghlands of Panama may be a whim, or it may be a
> life-changer. I still love my work, but damned if it isn't hard to get
> paid (well) for too much of it. There is a siren's call of finding a
> "homesteading" life somewhere where my skills and knowledge and financial
> assets (small compared to most here, but sufficient in a 3rd world
> environment) is truly leveraged... the charms of the central American
> highlands (such as Panama and Ecuador ala Gary) is the weather and the
> implications for subsistence agrarian lifestyles, boosted by a small amount
> of high-tech and good-funding (US $$).
>
> There is a huge movement around expatriating, but most of it just offends
> me... semi-wealthy Americans wanting to live a wealthy lifestyle by moving
> to another country, avoiding US Taxes (whilst keeping citizenship, bank
> security, etc)... gated communities, resorts, golf courses, etc. Not my
> cup of tea. I think Gary's situation is a nice notch below all that. I'm
> looking for a notch yet lower I think.
>
> I have had good conversations with Carl about his own ideas for bringing the
> smallest blip in high-tech to his own favorite 3rdish world environment
> (Islands off of japan) and finding a life that fits with "the locals".
>
> I'm not likely to follow through on any of this, but I am interested. The
> *one* luxury I don't know how to put down is internet access... not
> streaming movies or music, but enough to do the research/reading I am wont
> to do, not to mention write massive missives to dump on FriAM and WedTech!
>
> I've been on the road for 6 weeks (8 by some measure) living mostly in the
> Safari-style tent on my truck, doing a 360 survey of National
> Parks/Lodges/etc. for a project I'm pitching with Matt/Janire (joint
> venture is 4Pi Productions) with the NPS... and spotty internet has been my
> biggest bane. Cold rain, snow, 107 degree heat, high winds, slow tourists,
> impatient locals, a blowout, an infection from a hot spring, watercraft
> inspections at every border, etc. were nothing compared to trying to get
> regular and consistent internet access! It says more about my addiction
> than the actual availability.
>
> Tethering my GSM/ATT was the best, but I burned 10GB in less than a month
> that way and *still* had holes in my service... the beautiful places
> (rightly so?) have some of the weakest cell coverage!
>
> I'm in Seattle (at a motel!) today, meeting an old friend/colleague who
> recently retired as VP for HPC at MS... then on to Rainier, Hanford,
> Spokane and maybe Glacier.
>
> - Steve
>
> Fascinating! Stuart Brand (Whole Earth Catalog & SFI) would be interested,
> especially the wireless stunt. He studies creativity at the edge of poverty
> and large sprawling cities.
>
> I've heard a lot more folks planning to retire to Mexico and other south
> american places. One went to Ecuador .. the optician to whom I gave your
> email a while back.
>
> I saw several years ago a site/magazine specializing in "expatriates" ..
> finding a place, buying a house, identifying communities of interest, taxes,
> citizenship, the list goes on. I bet there are a lot of these now.
>
> The economics sure makes sense, especially if you're retiring from an
> expensive area. Adjusting to leaving "home" and familiar surroundings is
> tough, I remember how well you prepared.
>
> I looked into moving to Italy or possible Ireland. Amazing the small things
> that get in the way. At this point I feel more comfortable in Italy than
> any other EU country. But it is a Big Deal, and Family intervened!
>
> -- Owen
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 11:35 PM, Steve Smith <
[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> and is your price for this is $100/Mbit/month?
>>
>> I'm on a similar "first mile" (23miles in my case) and they (cnsp) are
>> about to offer 50Mb/s service off of SF Ski Hill... for not much more than
>> my 1.5Mbit/s runs... I assume the extra cost is a combination of shared
>> total-bandwidth and maybe "scarcity"?
>>
>>
>> The owner is a friend, so he let me out an antenna on his tower. It is
>> quite common here, except that the ISP usually provides the equipment. Some
>> friend...
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 30, 2015, Marcus Daniels <
[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Gary writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Fiber in most cities now, nothing in rural areas. I have a good view of a
>>> town 20 km away that has fiber, so have wireless connection from my tower to
>>> my ISP. “
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is that common, or something you negotiated with the ISP?
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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