Re: Extended sense of The Commons

Posted by Nick Thompson on
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/11-American-Nations-tp7584250p7584763.html

Gosh, guys.  The longer I stay out of this conversation, the more sense it makes.  Lesson to be learned, there, I guess.  [sigh]

 

I assume you guys know that there is a HUGE scientific literature on this quandary.  Altruism, cheating, cheater detection, altruistic enforcement. Does anybody know where it stands at the moment.  Time I read a recent review.   The basic question is, "In our explanations of human behavior, do we always have to appeal to benefits to Ego's germline, or can we appeal to explanations based on benefits to the group of which Ego is a part?  Here, FWIW, is the most serious contribution that I made to that literature.

 

Perhaps I could get you guys to read it by promising hereafter to be an altruistic lurker.

 

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Steve Smith
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 10:50 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: [FRIAM] Extended sense of The Commons

 

Marcus sed/Glen replied

>> If

>> it is too painful to fund the fund, the pain needs to be spread out

>> in some systematic way with actual government IMO.

> Before I started participating in this hyper local government (our

> neighborhood development association - which is a branch of the city,

> not one of those things property owners are supposed to join and pay

> dues to), I completely disagreed with you.  I assumed anyone who owned

> a home would be interested in preserving their home's value by

> investing in the local community.  Apparently, I was wrong.  There is

> an energetic subset of those people.  But most of them just don't give

> a damn until they need help.  Most will only come to meetings when

> they have something to bitch about.

> 

> So, perhaps that's why I'm slowly turning into a liberal.  It's time

> to move... maybe out to Wyoming or somesuch so that I can again call

> myself "libertarian" with a straight face.

> 

When we lived in Berkeley for 1 year, one short block off Telegraph at the Oakland border, a neighborhood association (Halcyon Court) took over

an underutilized parking lot and made it into a small greenspace/park.  

It was a beautiful little park and it was the gathering place for many...  it had many lives in a single day.

 

Once a month (I forget the schedule .. Nth something of the month I

think) neighbors would gather to maintain the park... trim, dig, plant,

prune, etc.   Nobody was in charge, but there were a few leftovers from

the original design/creation.   It was very self-organizing.   We

learned of it by word of mouth.  No newsletter or e-mail list... just conversations among neighbors "you coming out tomorrow?"  "what do you

think most needs doing?"   "I've got some stain for the bench, what do

you think?"  mostly pairwise or 3 way convos.

 

Most of the people who came out (OK half) were not even homeowners...

they lived in one of the many small apartment buildings (quad/six plex

ish).   It was about investing in the "common experience" of the

neighborhood as much as any percieved long term cash value of homes...

though those who did own there certainly seemed to appreciate it and threw down strongly at these gatherings.  Most every week, someone would mention about 3PM... say... I've got a pot of beans on if anyone wants

to come by... I live over there (pointing).   By "closing time", a

network of ad-hoc eatovers was passed around... and anyone hanging out was likely as not to stop in two or three homes for a bite or a libation.

 

The park had 2-3 homeless who slept there every night... They were up and out before the 6 AM crowd started to arrive with dogs for a pee or a poop (never once saw any poop left...  everyone just did their part) then the Volvo wagons with the kids for the neighborhood day care

started arriving around 7.   By 9, that crowd was gone and some of the

local families would wander in with kids... one slide, 2 swings and lots

of wood chips and a lawn big enough for a kids pickup soccer game.   By

3 or so, the high school kids showed up to smoke (tobacco and

whacko)...   then later, the Volvos to pick up the kids, the evening dog

walk... neighborhood chitchat...  maybe an adult smoke outside the house...  or kids at the playground... then sometime after dark  you would  see things being "lit up" in the dark... Cigs, Weed and possibly

Crack.    If I took my dog out after 10, I'd probably have to call her

away from a sleeping body in the bushes... she loved to lick the homeless... they are pretty tasty to a dog I think.

 

It was the most self-organized, ad-hoc, functional neighborhood I've

ever imagined.   Far from perfect,   breakins now and then, mostly

cars.   Bums hitting you up for spare change.   Never really quite

"clean" but never filthy.   Hard to find good parking.   NEVER a cop to

be seen.  Never sirens or lights.   1/2 block away every hour... but not

in this self-run neighborhood, mostly of short-timer renters, and some "vagrants"...

 

it gave me hope for the viability of a commons.

 

- Steve

 

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