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Re: asymmetric snooping

Posted by Roger Critchlow-2 on Sep 23, 2013; 10:35pm
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/asymmetric-snooping-tp7583857p7583861.html

They were government executives using government equipment to discuss government business, I don't think they have any expectations of privacy.  Nor does an officer of a corporation using corporation equipment to discuss corporate business get any expectation of privacy.  I think you need a different straw man for your privacy arguments, these idiots aren't in the game.

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On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 3:32 PM, glen <[hidden email]> wrote:
Roger Critchlow wrote at 09/23/2013 01:49 PM:

Well, it wasn't just any normal employee audit.

Yeah, but did the IT person [know of allegations of|suspect] racist txt messages (or something else) _before_ they read them?  If not, why did they read them? ... for kicks?  ... bored during the copy process?  If I gave you my phone to copy the data to a new device, would you read the text messages on there?

To some extent, I think it might be typical for sysadmin types (e.g. Snowden) to read things they shouldn't read.  And it flows well with the stereotype of IT tech support being snarky or dismissive to their customers ... a kind of grandiosity, entitlement, or unjustified superiority.


And the school board was prepared to overlook the matter until someone
leaked the transcripts to the district attorney's office.

There's another similarity to the NSA case, I suppose ... but we can say the same about, say, Anthony Wiener ... or prostitution patronizing televangelists ... don't "come clean" until you get caught.


It seems that if you hand your cell phone to someone to have them transfer
everything on it onto a new phone, you really can't have any expectations
about privacy.

Right.  But the point is, can you have expectations of privacy at all, any where, any time, with any task?  If so, where, when, what tasks?  It strikes me that the more coupled we are into a collective, the less private we are.  Full stop.  If you want privacy, you need to live off the grid, by yourself, in the wilderness.  But if you want to be a productive member of society, you have to submit to open data, open source, open everything.


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