Posted by
Steve Smith on
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/Urgent-skype-vulnerability-tp7583763p7583849.html
On 9/16/13 10:47 PM, Marcus G. Daniels
wrote:
On 9/16/13 9:41 PM, Steve Smith
wrote:
My (relevant) point is that with
that kind of distributed, self-motivated, activity... how
could we possibly know that there aren't man
Anonymous-Sympathetic individuals working on hardware doping,
etc. as part of their day jobs (or parallell/tangential to
their day jobs) who might be on the edge of this.
It seems to me an organization like Anonymous has little to offer
such a person, besides risk of identification. Does such a person
really want to risk their own Adrian Lamo when picking a fight
with the Zetas cartel?
Anonymous has *nothing* to offer *anyone* as an organization IMO.
What it offers, as a concept, is an inspiration and an awareness
that a large, almost completely decoupled group of people can have a
big effect.
I'm sure that you are correct that the limited effect against the
Cartels by Anon's call to action *is* based on the wide reaching and
unforgiving threat they represent in their very nature.
Without using the brush too broadly, I can imagine that *many*
would be as reticent about taking on say... the US (or any
country's) intelligence apparatus or any of the transnational
corporations (look at what has come out about such interests in SoAm
and Africa and the lengths they have probably gone to to maintain
favorable conditions for extractive profits).
Using Snowden as an example, if we grant him the motivations he has
claimed (whether they might be naive or not), he disturbed the water
of the US National Security policy regarding spying on US Citizens
in a way that surely thousands of others in similar positions to his
might have. His position was elite, but not unique.
I don't fully appreciate your Adrian Lamo reference... are you
saying that the Mannings (and Snowdens?) of the world need to think
about the Lamos of the world when they act? If we were playing
Jeapordy, I guess the answer to "Adrian Lamo" is somewhere in a
recursive chain of "Who is watching the Watchers?".
I don't like the idea of generating/cultivating a culture of fear
and paranoia, but I suppose I *do* like noticing that the culture of
fear and paranoia that already exists might be self-limiting through
it's own nature?
- Steve
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