Re: outsider everything

Posted by Marcus G. Daniels on Aug 21, 2013; 3:42am
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/How-Laura-Poitras-Helped-Snowden-Spill-His-Secrets-NYTimes-com-tp7583618p7583709.html

On 8/20/13 9:02 PM, Marcus G. Daniels wrote:

> On 8/20/13 8:18 PM, Steve Smith wrote:
>> This sounds a lot like the problem of verifying computer-generated
>> proofs like the early example of the 4 color problem.  It might be
>> almost good enough to be able to verify each "step" of the proof and
>> the "logic" that it all hangs together with, even if no human can
>> claim to actually intuitively grasp the entireity of it?
>>
> Not a constructive proof, I'm claiming that from a bunch of wonky
> premises the `candidate for proposed trust mode 3' can iterate a
> argument forward in a useful, convincing, or subjectively interesting
> way that causes me to listen for more.   It might just be because
> they're a good at sales and that I'm a sucker.  The Kool-Aid is tasty,
> may I have another glass?!
>

Goof!  I lost the thread.  I was arguing that universal truth could be
displaced with best-effort transactional scrutiny.   Passing
transactional scrutiny I argue is form of trust mode 1.  It's only a
good as the available eyes on the problem -- the trust giver's. Trust
mode 3 is where "subjectively interesting" lands.   Trust Mode  1 =
Convince, Trust Mode 3 = Entertain / Motivate

Marcus



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