Re: outsider everything
Posted by Steve Smith on Aug 18, 2013; 12:03am
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Marcus -
I remember in the mid 90's that one of the overhashed topics around security / clearances was the euphamisms about having sex with foreign nationals. There was a clause about having to report any "ongoing intimate relations" with foreign nationals (especially from sensitive countries which I seem to remember *any* country which was known to have nuclear capability, and a longer list of countries known to be "inimical" to the US). The guideline we were given (only verbally I'm pretty sure) was that "ongoing" meant more than a single incident... so effectively, we were free to have one night stands with just about anyone and only had to report such if there was A) indication they were pumping us for information (pillow talk?) or B) if you went back for more.
By those rules, I think we could be as chummy as we liked with Israelis (their nuclear capability was and still is treated as an open secret) but don't you dare take a roll in the hay (or even stay up all night talking?) with a french or british woman (or man?) in any "intimate way" more than once. Once was ok... but after that you had to ask "mother may I".
In the new millenium, I think that includes sex-chat online? Careful boys (and girls)!
- Steve
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Marcus -
Here's a fun document from 1955. The NSA conduct guide!
http://cryptome.org/2013/07/nsa-conduct-guide-1955.pdf
I remember in the mid 90's that one of the overhashed topics around security / clearances was the euphamisms about having sex with foreign nationals. There was a clause about having to report any "ongoing intimate relations" with foreign nationals (especially from sensitive countries which I seem to remember *any* country which was known to have nuclear capability, and a longer list of countries known to be "inimical" to the US). The guideline we were given (only verbally I'm pretty sure) was that "ongoing" meant more than a single incident... so effectively, we were free to have one night stands with just about anyone and only had to report such if there was A) indication they were pumping us for information (pillow talk?) or B) if you went back for more.
By those rules, I think we could be as chummy as we liked with Israelis (their nuclear capability was and still is treated as an open secret) but don't you dare take a roll in the hay (or even stay up all night talking?) with a french or british woman (or man?) in any "intimate way" more than once. Once was ok... but after that you had to ask "mother may I".
In the new millenium, I think that includes sex-chat online? Careful boys (and girls)!
- Steve
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