Re: PRISM/AP kerfluffle, etc

Posted by Roger Critchlow-2 on
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/The-AP-kerfuffle-tp7583146p7583440.html

This article points out some of the real fun:

  http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/16/us/double-secret-surveillance.html

So several months ago the DOJ got a suit by the usual anti-surveillance do-gooders dismissed in the SCOTUS by arguing that the do-gooders had no standing to sue, only someone who's actually being tried by the USGOVT based on or derived from surveillance evidence had the standing to challenge the constitutionality of the surveillance.  The majority opinion parrotted the DOJ's argument.  

Now, the DOJ is arguing in court cases that those being tried by the USGOVT have no right to challenge the constitutionality of the surveillance, either.

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On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:38 PM, glen <[hidden email]> wrote:

Owen Densmore wrote at 07/15/2013 11:27 AM:

> I mean that I believe what he says.

Yeah, but so did the hiring managers at Booz-Allen and whoever accepted his
signature on the NDA when he signed onto the NSA contract.  The trouble with
people like Snowden (as opposed to an honest whistle blower) is that he
intentionally lied at the outset.  That means that he is capable of
intentionally lying again whenever he deems it will serve his agenda.

In the same way that you can't trust a defector not to defect again, you can't
trust Snowden to tell the truth for any altruistic purposes.  He's gaming us
just like the NSA is gaming us.  I believe some of what Snowden says.  I also
believe some of what the Clapper says ... and some of what Obama says.  Etc.
And it has _nothing_ to do with that "slimy" feeling I get when I listen to them
talk.

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⇒⇐ glen e. p. ropella

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