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Re: PRISM/AP kerfluffle, etc

Posted by Owen Densmore on Jul 15, 2013; 5:01pm
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/The-AP-kerfuffle-tp7583146p7583427.html

Very useful, thanks!

So the current approach is a blend of full-take for 3+ days, with much larger time for meta-data.  "Targeted" people are basically pwned, with full-take for as long as they'd like, default "for ever".  Unlikely the full-take is useful for analysis without auxiliary field input to narrow searches.  Airline examples were interesting.

I'm now officially freaked.  And I really do believe there are serious legal/constitutional issues here.

NSA and the gvt itself no longer represent and protect us, the citizens of the USA.  We're trapped by international intrigue and interests that simply do not matter to us as a country, a citizenry.

Indeed, they harm us.  All our wars from Korea to the present have been insane hubris and the begin of the fall of our Empire.  And the sum is that the distrust for us is placing us at unparalleled risk.  Voting hasn't worked and the real issues are not discussed and debated.

Damn.

   -- Owen




On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:04 AM, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
``Regardless of opinions on the ethics/legal side, the "collect it all"
approach seems just impossible for me to grok.''

Sounds like the UK is more aggressive in this regard: `full take' for 3
days.

<a href="http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/interview-with-whistleblower-edwar d-snowden-on-global-spying-a-910006.html" target="_blank">http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/interview-with-whistleblower-edwar
d-snowden-on-global-spying-a-910006.html

Marcus

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