Re: cognition as self-control (was DIY science)

Posted by Nick Thompson on
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/DIY-science-tp7582911p7582971.html

Well, If I am doing my job well as the Village Pragmatist, you are arguing
with Peirce, not with me. Frankly, I have no idea what I think.  But I think
Peirce thinks a lot like a control system theorist ... eg. Powers.  

Nick

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Subject: [FRIAM] cognition as self-control (was DIY science)


I have to argue with you about all cognition growing out of the need for
self control, as opposed to any other physiological process, e.g.
turning food into energy, maintaining a reasonable brain temperature,
excreting bile into the intestine, etc.

Some of these can be classified as self control.  But some of them don't fit
the category very well.  However, on your side, I think it's safe to say
that _every_ behavior we engage in is accompanied by at least one, if not
lots, of self control behaviors.  E.g. it's hard to shoot a duck if your
eyes are spastically wiggling around too much or you can't hold your arms
steady.

I'm wondering if a better way to say it is "maintaining an active embedding"
in the world.  It's a little bit about self control and a little bit about
other control.  Where the other won't bend, the self is modified and vice
versa.

Nicholas Thompson wrote at 04/23/2013 10:17 AM:
> I think the Village Pragmatist would say that all science ... all
> cognition, in fact ... grows out of the need for self control.  Now,
> we have to be careful with "self-control" here, because it does not
> only mean, in this context, things like "keeping myself from flying
> off the handle in FRIAM discussions."  By "self-control" is meant,"I poke
the world and I see what
> happens to me."   Depending on what happens, I poke the world differently
> the next time.  N


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=><= glen e. p. ropella
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