Re: just the facts

Posted by Roger Critchlow-2 on Apr 05, 2013; 6:50pm
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/just-the-facts-tp7582525p7582531.html

Lying with statistics, I don't think that firearm homicide or firearm suicide (the categories in the second table) count as firearm accidental deaths (the category in the first graph).

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On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 12:45 PM, cody dooderson <[hidden email]> wrote:

That looked cool. I was particularily interested in what they said about gun control( http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp ). I went to the source of their information and it was totally different from what they reported.

They attribute the data to the source 

[120] Dataset: "20 Leading Causes of Unintentional Injury Deaths, United States, 2007." U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National Center for Injury Prevention and Control. Accessed September 1, 2010 athttp://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadcaus10.html

And here is their graph. Notice that firearm deaths is 16th.

Here is the exact data i got from from http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadcaus10.html for  2007

Notice than firearm deaths are ranked both 4th and 5th. What is going on here? Is this a Fox news source. Also, why did they just choose 2007? The data goes back to 1999

10 Leading Causes of Injury Deaths, United States 2007, All Races, Both Sexes

	Age Groups
Rank	<1	1-85
1	Unintentional Suffocation  959	Unintentional MV Traffic  41,900
2	Homicide Unspecified  174	Unintentional Poisoning  29,824
3	Unintentional MV Traffic  122	Unintentional Fall  22,605
4	Homicide Other Spec., classifiable  86	Suicide Firearm  17,350
5	Unintentional Drowning  57	Homicide Firearm  12,608
6	Unintentional Fire/burn  39	Suicide Suffocation  8,161
7	Undetermined Suffocation  34	Suicide Poisoning  6,356
8	Homicide Suffocation  30	Unintentional Unspecified  6,005
9	Undetermined Unspecified  28	Unintentional Suffocation  5,038
10	Unintentional Fall  24	Undetermined Poisoning  3,759

	WISQARSTM	Produced By: Office of Statistics and Programming, National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
		Data Source: National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), National Vital Statistics System

On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Robert J. Cordingley <[hidden email]> wrote:

From Abortion, Climate Change, Gun Control to Social Security and Taxes, the http://www.justfacts.com/ offers just the [distilled] facts on about 14 major topics.  I thought this site with its emphasis on objectivity might perhaps be useful to the group.  The sister (brother|sibling) site http://www.justfactsdaily.com/ may be more politically motivated and picking and choosing what to discuss.

Thanks
Robert C



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