Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Privacy vs Open Public Data

Posted by lrudolph on
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/Privacy-vs-Open-Public-Data-tp7581246p7581352.html

Why stop at "jam the camera"?  *Spoof* the camera (feed it false but plausible data, perhaps
inculpating someone else, or perhaps just showing an uppity empty Naugahyde `:chair): a real-
time, animated analogue of the photoshopped stills we now have learned to expect everywhere.

> Ah.  The equivalent of the bank Robbers mask.  Jam the camera.  N
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>   My point is that there are things we do not want to be public that are not
> illegal nor shameful.  An example of such a thing is a behavior or statement
> that seems to contradict one's relationship with another human.  It's
> perfectly reasonable, but that other human can and frequently does feel
> emotional pain if they find out about it.  Another example was brought up in
> the thread of how humans manipulate their social environment to prevent
> social pressure or improve their social situation.
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>   BTW, I find it interesting if not ironic that the very systems that allow
> for ubiquitous surveillance are the same systems that allow for
> indiscriminate self-exposure - computers.  Here's a prediction - someday
> there will be an app that will turn off surveillance cameras as one passes
> by them.  That may be a black-market app - but it will exist.  It's harder
> but not impossible to do the same for UAVs/RPAs/regular aircraft.  The
> hardest type of surveillance to turn off is satellite - but it's also the
> easiest to predict.
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> On Jan 17, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
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> Sorry.  I wasn't asking whether we lie or not.  Or even whether it eases
> some social situations.  I was asking for a theory of why lying greases
> social situations.  Why is the NET effect of small lies positive?  I can
> think of some reasons.  Like chimpanzees, we live in a fision-fusion
> situation.  The size of the lie that one can "honestly" tell probably
> depends in many cases on the frequency with which one sees the person one is
> lying to.   And then there is the distinction between speech as stroking and
> speech as conveying of information.  I get that wrong, a lot.
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> I am having a hard time thinking how this is related to my original question
> about whether there should be a law against using public data to track
> individual behavior.  I know that I opened up the subthread about shame and
> guilt, so I stipulate that it is my fault that we are talking about it.  And
> I actually think it is related.  I just can't state the relation.   I am
> thinking we might be moving toward a belief that truth is like arousal .
> life goes best when one has a moderate level of it.  There was a wonderful
> study done some years ago about he relation between truth and the best
> marriages.  Married folk were asked to play The Dating Game together ..
> i.e., guess what spouses answers to personal questions would be,
> preferences, what have you.  Three categories of respondents were
> identified: spouse pairs that had an unrealistical enhanced view of one
> another, spouse pairs that had an unrealistically jaundiced view of one
> another, and spouse pairs that had a realistic view of one another.  As you
> might expect, the first group maintained the most enduring marriages.
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> But this just brings me back to the need for a theory of why a society is
> better is there is just a bit less truth in it.  A pragmatic notion, but
> not, I fear, a Pragmatic one.
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