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Re: The Two Party System

Posted by Jochen Fromm-5 on Nov 08, 2012; 8:36pm
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/The-Two-Party-System-tp7580966p7580980.html

Yes, most European countries use a multi-party system and find it acceptable. We have too much bureaucracy in Brussels (i.e. in the EU), though. The amount of advertising and marketing is also on a tolerable level. In the US the money spent for political ads and campaigns is extreme. In China there are no campaigns at all. In this sense, Europe may has found a good compromise between both extremes.

-J.


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Paul Paryski <[hidden email]> wrote:
Most European countries do quite well with a multi-party system, e.g. Germany, England, France, Poland).  And a parliamentary or semi-parliamentary system is much more responsive to public opinion than a purely presidential system.

cheers, Paul


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From: Owen Densmore <[hidden email]>
To: Jochen Fromm <[hidden email]>; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thu, Nov 8, 2012 9:37 am
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The Two Party System

The 1 & 2 party systems are the only ones avoiding the pitfalls of Arrow's Impossibility Theorem.

But what about 2.5 parties?  By this I mean guys running but with no possibility of winning .. the so called third party candidates in the US?

They are often seen as spoilers, by taking away votes from the two possible candidates in a 2 party system.

But to the point, No I don't think China's system is the future.  The world appears to like multiparty systems, increasingly with "fair voting" tossed in with some sort of recursive run-off schemes.

So I wonder what's it like in a true multi-party system like most of Europe has?  Is it effective? interesting? confusing? fun? Are the populations aware of Arrow?  Does it avoid grid-lock?

   -- Owen

On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 1:54 AM, Jochen Fromm <[hidden email]> wrote:

I watched the party congress in China today and thought what a difference to the US election. In the US there was a year long multi billion dollar campaign for each party, in China none at all. In the US we have a simple two party system, in China a single party system. What do you think? Is China's model the future?

-J.



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