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Re: online privacy (again)

Posted by Robert Lancaster-3 on Apr 02, 2012; 5:36pm
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/online-privacy-again-tp7429773p7430251.html

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I need to inject a strenuous objection to the response "get used to it." which affects me much like the supposed red

flag and the bull.  I will stipulate the enormous odds that face whoever will  refuse to "get used to it," but  we had

 better remember that just about anyone who has refused to "get used to" hundreds or thousands of hopeless

 situations  throughout most of human history has faced impossible odds  except that in quite a few cases they

 turned out not to be impossible. Yes. this is a tough one.  They have all been tough.  The truly hopeless response,

however, is only surrender.  II'll stick with Churchill…Never give in, Never give in Never never never NEVER.

Losing the fight is only defeat.  Get used to it is surrender.

Bob Lancaster

On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:

Thank you doug, for your wisdom AND for your mercy.  Nick
 
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Douglas Roberts
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 10:02 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] online privacy (again)
 
Some forms of ignorance and/or stupidity are worthy, nay, richly deserving of contempt.  And disparagement.  We have, IMO, a societal obligation to push back against stupidity, and arrogance, and studied ignorance.
 
But not on this topic.  Times are a changin'.  Personal privacy no longer exists if you use internet technologies to communicate, or browse for information, or to share pictures of your kitties.  Or look up bomb recipes.  If you're going to do something online that could come back to bite you, you'd better become a top-notch expert on anonymizing technologies and methodology and practices. 
 
Get used to it, it is the way it is.
 

--Doug

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Nicholas Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi, everybody,
 
Did you see this odd, avuncular op-ed from the Federal Trade Commission? 
 
I don’t know whether it reassured me more than it scared the living bejeesus out of me.  “Big-Brother’s Big Brother is looking out for you.” 
 
I take it back about contempt:  If one of you would like to write me an email, right now, which begins, “Nick, you miserable, feckless, idiot:  go immediately to your browser properties, google profile, registry, WHATEVER, and do the following N things.  And tell everybody in your family to do the same.” , I would give you a totally free pass on the contempt thing.  And be grateful for it.
 
Nick
 
 
 
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
 
 

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