http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/Just-as-a-bye-the-way-tp7397553p7400536.html
When we put it in a computer, it works. My email spam filter
networks. It is remarkably effective at keeping spam out, and
learning, in the process, what I consider to be spam.
explain why the above is not an example of induction. I have read
David Deutsch's books where takes a swinging hammer to induction. I
found these to be less than convincing. Moreover, the examples he
occasional spam gets through). I have been on the lists Fabric of
which I'm unlikely to do without a compelling reason. Surely, if induction
less.
induction. But it seems that to say induction doesn't exist or doesn't
work is going too far.
> So, Doug, explain to me how you come to believe in the validity of
> induction?
>
>
>
> From:
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> Of Douglas Roberts
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 2:43 PM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Just as a bye-the-way
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>
> So, for reference: a 2X intelligence delta that we have all probably
> experienced, perhaps without knowing it, would be from talking with a person
> who had an IQ of 70, followed by engaging with a person having a140 IQ.
>
> I will ignore quibbles about the accuracy of IQ as an intelligence measure
> for the purpose of this discussion.
>
> I suspect the less intelligent person truely believes the religious dogma
> he's been taught. No ambiguity: true belief.
>
> I've observed that the more intelligent people put part of their intellect
> to sleep when it comes to religion. They call this process "taking it as an
> article of faith" when one of the irrational elements of their religion is
> brought into the spotlight.
>
> So the question that I would have, were we all to suddenly evolve 2X
> intelligence is: to what extent would we collectively be willing to suspend
> our intelligent thought processes in order to continue to believe religious
> bullshit?
>
> Working from my phone today...
>
> -Doug
>
> Sent from Android.
>
> On Mar 23, 2012 1:58 PM, "Robert J. Cordingley" <
[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> For starters what would you consider to be good and bad - assuming you are
> still a human being, with human interests at least? It's a problem because
> I haven't premised whether you have infinite knowledge to go with the
> infinite intelligence 'cos the two together is/are looking like an
> omni-something being etc.
>
> Ok, so let's assume humans evolve collectively to be 2x or 10x more
> intelligent than now. How would society change? Would anyone vote for
> Republicans? or Democrats? Would we even have a voting system? Would the
> jails be empty?
>
> Thanks
> Robert C
>
> On 3/23/12 1:23 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote:
>
> Good question about infinite intelligence. Try to even frame a reference for
> answering that one.
>
> Sent from Android.
>
> On Mar 23, 2012 12:14 PM, "Robert J. Cordingley" <
[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> I'm told many find comfort in the teachings of <insert your spiritual leader
> here>. I thought it odd/insightful that Joseph Cambell
> <
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_campbell> found the same core message
> in the world's major religious teachings. I can believe moral atheists
> share the same core teachings. Then there are those from all persuasions
> that hijack a religion for their own purposes: political or financial power
> - they can all burn in hell! :) But hey if it works even as a social
> phenomenon, i.e. allows one to enjoy life and live longer and die in peace,
> can we knock it?
>
> Otherwise I must congratulate Father Doug in becoming a man of the cloth at
> the CotFSM <
http://www.venganza.org/> and following in a long line of
> inspired spiritual teachers. I liked the bit about ' we are anti-crazy
> nonsense done in the name of religion.' (see the About page). Noodle on.
>
> Thanks,
> Robert C
> PS What would you believe if you had infinite intelligence? R
>
> On 3/22/12 11:31 PM, Russ Abbott wrote:
>
> Doug, I don't want to pick on you, but your certificate strikes me as
> indirect bullying.
>
>
>
> I'm as atheistic as they come, but I know a number of people who (for
> reasons that I don't understand) take religion quite seriously. They are
> intelligent, pleasant people, not the sort to rub their beliefs in anyone's
> face. Most are politically left of center. One has a bumper sticker that
> reads "A proud member of the religious left".
>
>
>
> Why pick on them? I'm sure you don't intend to. I'm sure you are making fun
> of the Rick Santorums of the world. It's just that by casting as wide a net
> as the Flying Spaghetti Monster does, it also makes fun of everyone with
> religious feelings.
>
>
>
> The answer someone like Sam Harris would give is that what they say is
> either false or without any shred of objective support. But the people I'm
> thinking of don't go around proclaiming their beliefs as The Truth. They go
> about their business simply wanting to experience the world through a
> different lens. The fact that I don't understand it -- and I don't; I'm
> completely mystified by their way of thinking about certain things --
> doesn't give me the right to ridicule it.
>
>
>
> Sorry for the rant.
>
>
>
>
> -- Russ
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Douglas Roberts <
[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> Don't want my FRIAM friends and acquaintances to be the last to know:
>
>
>
> If you feel like getting married, I can now conduct the ceremony.
>
>
>
> "With this rigatoni, I thee wed, etc."
>
>
>
> -Father Doug
>
>
>
>
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