Posted by
Steve Smith on
Mar 01, 2012; 7:11pm
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/CrossPost-Lytro-v-Abundance-tp7333744.html
This seems to fit the FRIAM list a little better but I suspect many
on Discuss are here as well.
-------- Original Message --------
Interesting, but I don't think that Ansel Adams would be impressed. I wasn't.
Nor Gabriel
Lippmann, upon whose work the Stanford/Lytro was ultimately
based.
With earlier conceptual precedent from Franciscan Roger Bacon and
Leonardo DaVinci (Radiant Pyramids), informed by Alhazen's c10
Book
of Optics being the introduction of the
intromission over
extromission theory of light and visual perception. Roots of
the same concepts have been traced back as far as Aristotle and
Archimedes.
My own work in the development of camera arrays impinges on this.
The obvious utility is capturing real-world scenes for
reconstruction (many uses for this). The 7D plenoptic function
(x,y,z,rho, theta, lambda, polarization angle) is an unrealizable
(by current technology) ideal of which the Lytro roughly manages
only a subrange of the first 6 minus Z ... a small 2D patch
(imaging array) pointed in a direction with a restricted field of
view, with sampling in 3 (r,g,b) bins for Lambda and no explicit
polarization information. These new developments are
fascinating!
<careening-toward-abundance>
Referencing Kotler's "Abundance" and Owen's commentary about
computational sociology, I think this (Lytro and other "light field"
or "plenoptic" cameras is a good example of the kinds of
(exponential?) advances being made in many fields. It is notable
that under the current model, a fairly "mundane" commercial
exploitation of such deep conceptual work is required to advance it
significantly. A *lot* has happened in the last 104 years. What are
the implications of that?
As a side note, it is worth acknowledging that a great deal of the
theory involved in Integral Imaging, Light Fields, etc. was
applied effectively in Phased Array and Synthetic Aperture Radar
(including the VLA, VLBA and other radio astronomy).
Lippman may also have been pursuing the commercial angle when he won
his Nobel for (pre-holographic) use of interference patterns for
color photography. The multiple patents on pinhole-array (vs
lense-array as with Ng's-cum-Lytro work) in the 30's were clearly
struggling toward commercial advantage which was never apparently
realized.
The huge body of work from the Soviet Union (70's-90's) in the area
was certainly being pursued for *practical* if not explicitly
commercial advantage.
Alhazen (
Ibn al-Haytham, c10-11 Muslim scholar) did his seminal work while
imprisoned in Egypt by the Caliph for refusing (not being able?) to
regulate the Nile. His work in general was used for practical
purposes but seems to have been driven by a more pure
desire/interest in knowledge. His Book of Optics being a good
example. He has often been given credit for providing some of the
earliest precedents for the Scientific Method. His work in the area
might be considered more "pure" perhaps. He appears to have been a
genius both in thought and action.
Aristotle is given credit for somewhat "pure" thought but
Archimedes' career was filled with military inventions (most
relevant to this discussion, his development of parabolic mirrors to
focus sunlight on enemy ships and set them aflame).
<careen directly-into-abundance/scarcity>
I tend toward preferring the Darwinian model of evolution, including
evolution of society and of ideas (Dawkinsian Memes?). With that
in mind, I believe that "on average" the "advances" in technology
will have survival value for the phenotype (the individuals and
groups where they are invented/discovered/applied).
What I'm contemplating here is the question of Darwinian evolution
vs the Singularity. I may have commented before here about my
observations across many scientific phenomena of Sigmoidal
Functions. I have not heard Kurzweil or any of the other Utopian
Singularians acknowledge this (though I might not have been
listening closely). To them, everything appears to be exponential
(huzzah!). Many processes *do* naturally exhibit compound growth,
but they also experience *saturation*, leading to sigmoidal curves
which rise rapidly, cross some asymptote and then flatten off.
Moore's Law of computational speedup, is an example where the
"piecewise sigmoidal" curves roughly add up to a curve with a lower
exponent. With each "saturation" of a given technology (e.g. light
lithography, e-beam lithography, ... ), a new invention (e.g.
molecular fabrication) is developed which again reaches some
"saturation" or other natural limit, etc. A kind of herky-jerky
exponential growth curve, if you will. Quantum computing changes
the paradigm, not just extends it into new regimes. Sorry Von
Neumann!
One fundamental limit to growth in human culture/society seems to be
the rate at which human beings can assimilate new technology, new
ideas, and maybe most importantly new paradigms. I believe (with
only anecdotal support) that one of the time-constants that is
invariant is the time for a human being to grow to maturity. In our
culture that is 20-30 years, in some it may be as little as 15.
The key is that new ideas and new paradigms may only take hold in
those who grew up under their influence. An adult may be able to
conceive of something new, even invent/develop/build it, but it may
require an embryonic personality (growing, developing child) to
really internalize and embrace it. For example, those of us (and
we are many here) who came to the Internet (or Cell Phones or ...)
as adults might well have a qualitatively different
understanding/perception of the technology, it's uses, and who we
are because of it than those who were born to it (our younger
members, say under 30, were children when the internet went public
(was invented by Al Gore???)). It may take multiple generations to
actually fully internalize and exploit the changes.
It is not just the time-constant of individuals assimilating the
implications but also of the changing relationships that result.
The Amish, before they adopt a new technology, ask "who will I
become if I use this new thing?" Few if any of the rest of us ask
that... and by extension, the question of "who do we collectively
become?" also never seems to get asked much. There are "popular"
social theorists such as Esther Dyson who seem to be asking these
questions, at least superficially... Who else is asking?
Kotler/Diamandes?
Kurzweil posits other mechanisms (mostly
machine-intelligence-augmentation) for the exponential change in
human capability, but I think that there will still be a fundamental
limit imposed by the way our brains wire up as we become adults.
Methinks Kurzweil is too focused on his own personal infinite
longevity and intellectual ascendance to consider any models that
require multiple generations of humanity to realize/experience a
singularity. I forget if he has children himself, but I think he'd
rather experience the singularity himself than produce progeny
(grand-progeny) who will emerge on the other side of said
singularity.
That said, I also think that paradigms are key and paradigms are
built on metaphors, are in fact, themselves metaphor complexes (or
complex metaphors)... For an adult population to change
qualitatively, I believe they need to be introduced to new (and
compelling) metaphors. The rhetoric about "winning hearts and
minds" is an example of where we go wrong. I *do* believe that
adults can develop a *working understanding* of new paradigms but
not so much a deep intuitive acceptance/embrasure of the same. I'm
not a developmental psychologist, and they may have more insight
into this, but my experience (anecdotal) is that old dogs don't
learn new perspectives, at best we learn new tricks.
My own utopian tendencies (unfounded desires?) supports the thesis
that the world population can go through some kind of phase change
based on material abundance. An important component of this phase
change is how a culture can change it's paradigm from scarcity to
abundance? Biblically (similar stories in Quran and other texts
with origin stories), Adam and Eve fell from Grace and were ejected
from Eden. The Abundance hypothesis would be a return to Grace, to
Eden as it were. We still have survivors of the holocaust in our
midst, some of us here even grew up in the Great Depression. Most
of us were raised by people who experienced the Great Depression and
WWII (from varying distances). Those were all experiences of great
scarcity. Scarcity of resources, and scarcity of safety, and
scarcity of hope for many.
Much of the third world and the "emerging nations" have suffered
from acute scarcity, magnified (in perception, if not in fact) by
their exposure to the first world. I wonder at how that can be
transcended? Perhaps a "mere" generation (15 years?) can blunt
it. Maybe the first wave of children born without explicit
malnutrition (or threat of it) or explicit exposure to extreme
elements, to capricious disease, etc. will adopt this new paradigm
of abundance while puzzling at their parents, grandparents adherence
to another model based on famine, exposure, disease, etc. Maybe the
Arab Spring is paving the way for the children being born in the
next few years to be the foundation of that change. Maybe the
growth crises-paradoxes in China wrought in part by the single-child
and preference for a male heir will be a foundation. I don't know
how to frame the plight of Subsaharan Africa's violence in a good
way... but there may be a Phoenix hiding in those ashes as well.
There is anecdotal (maybe more documented but only barely?) evidence
of the renaissance being a rebound effect of the decimation of
population in the Dark Ages. When half the population of Europe
died within a short time, the material goods did not die with them,
and a temporary spike in abundance was thereby experienced. It is
widely suggested that this abundance slingshotted Europe into a new
age. It's a good story, and I like it. I don't know if it is true
or how anyone can be sure.
I suppose I should just read Kotler/Diamandes' book... but idle
speculation on a mail list is so soothing and a smaller investment
of my "oh so scarce" time! And then there is that silly
distraction of trying to participate in the development of new
technology and it's applications... another vice partially
sublimated by idle speculation about light fields, integral imaging,
plenoptic functions, etc. when will I ever find time to do that
when I'm procrastinating on doing my taxes and billing my clients by
reading/writing e-mail to the list(s)?
Carry on,
- Steve
On Mar 1, 2012, at 8:41 AM, Chuck Baldwin wrote:
Today on NPR:
https://www.lytro.com/camera
--
Los Alamos Visualization Associates
LAVA-Synergy
4200 W. Jemez rd
Los Alamos, NM 87544
www.lava3d.com
[hidden email]
505-920-0252
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Santa
Fe Complex "discuss" group.
To post to this group, send email to [hidden email]
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
[hidden email]
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/a/sfcomplex.org/group/discuss
--
Los Alamos Visualization Associates
LAVA-Synergy
4200 W. Jemez rd
Los Alamos, NM 87544
www.lava3d.com
[hidden email]
505-920-0252
============================================================
FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at
http://www.friam.org