Re: parislemon • Why I Hate Android
Posted by
Carl Tollander on
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Well, it may come to pass that the only thing I have worth anythng
will be my phone, so I'll put it in my wallet and lock it with my
keys. For that matter, nothing will be ON my phone (hey, cloud),
the phone's main (only) job is to negotiate protocols. So I don't
need no steenking unified network. Just a loose bag of wires and
spectrum. Let the phones (or whatever we will call them) figure
out how to get packets from here to there. For some uses, maybe no
phone at all; have your people talk to my people. The 'phone' is
just a protocol droid (guess they can keep the name), a commodity,
interchangable, just 'around'.
Do we REALLY believe that 20 years from now we're going to be
worried about tv and sms on little devices we carry around on our
person? That's fighting the last war.
Carl
On 1/10/12 9:31 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:
Here's an interesting solution for a unified network in France.
All services (voice, sms, tv, data) plus some new ideas (ID,
banking):
“In your pocket you have three things: your keys, your
phone and your wallet,” he says. “I think of those three only
one will remain: your phone.”
http://gigaom.com/2012/01/09/how-frances-free-will-reinvent-mobile/
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Carl Tollander
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wrote:
I'd actually like to see some sort of software radio
thing, but again, kittens.....
What is the victory condition? What is the problem we
want to solve? It seems its not really battery
life....
On 1/10/12 6:10 PM, Victoria Hughes wrote:
What a great solution- the
mesh network. Communal, reasonable, relying on
interpersonal responsibility. How feasible is this
actually? This model - what without knowing the
jargon I'd call distributed or partnership effort,
each person doing a small part of the task, and
numbers making the big tasks happen - seems like
one of those things that can be pulled off in
small like-minded communities, or those with
pre-existing need that hasn't been filled yet.
But not so likely in an area where those things
don't exist. Sounds like something the Norwegians
would do, or people in Portland, Oregon.
Say more about how it could be set up? So
many applications besides phone service.
Tory
On Jan 10, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Arlo Barnes
wrote:
Open source hardware and software can
spread quickly to those who want it, and
clearly companies that sell mobile phones
do not want it. But there are enough smart
people out there that communities could
build the phones they want. So the issue
is coverage. nG should be like WiFi - as
open or closed as the owner of the hotspot
wants, controllable, et cetera. As has
been pointed out, a little weak on
security, but nothing that cannot be
fixed. The problem is that mobile devices
move around more than the average
computer, even including laptops. This is
why cell towers have been built to cover
wide areas, and of course companies need
to be big enough to have enough money to
build them. Big companies tend to not like
'open'. Communities might be able to raise
enough money, but towers are unsightly and
some people claim they cause health
problems. So the answer might be mesh
networks - chances are, a given mobile
device is a lot closer to another device
than the nearest tower, so signals do not
have to have quite a strong amplitude.
This means that people can provide each
other with coverage, bypassing vendors.
-Arlo
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