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Re: The "decline effect"

Posted by Robert Holmes on Dec 13, 2010; 2:24am
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/The-decline-effect-tp5827610p5829488.html

... and this is why probability and statistics should be a compulsory class for everyone who goes through our education system :-)

-- R

On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 5:38 AM, Pamela McCorduck <[hidden email]> wrote:
The NYer can be obtuse about scientific topics, but this article intrigued me. Is the decline effect real? 

It's certainly the case that many medical practitioners follow outdated advice. And the use of statistics in medicine (to be sure, a special subset of science) can be awkward. I keep asking people: if I've lowered my chances by twenty percent of contracting a certain cancer by doing thus-and-so, and I find four other thus-and-so's to also do, does that mean I'll never get that cancer? No one can answer.


On Dec 12, 2010, at 5:58 AM, [hidden email] wrote:

On 12 Dec 2010 at 0:46, Nicholas  Thompson wrote:

At least until recently, when the NY-er writes about science, they try very
hard not to write anything stupid.

What??? Have you forgotten the whole disgraceful
Paul Brodeur episode?  Refresh your memory by reading
<http://bobpark.physics.umd.edu/WN10/wn121010.html>.
Worse than stupid, verging on criminal, given the
amount of money it's caused to be thrown away and
the amount of anxiety it's generated or caused to
be misplaced.

I haven't yet read the "decline effect" article, and
am not commenting on it, just on your quoted sentence
above.


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