Re: Friam Digest, Vol 61, Issue 16

Posted by Mikhail Gorelkin on
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/Re-Friam-Digest-Vol-61-Issue-16-tp530192p531944.html

Glen, from my 4th part, where I was talking about Feynman's saying and a difference between *our makes* and *creations of our Geniuses*, I thought that it was clear that two "me" are actually: me and my invisible Genius (or esoterically - ye, I know that you hate such stuff :-) But how about "The Matrix"? - speaking "Higher Self"). Sorry, it was some fuzzy-ness in my definitions but I think that it is an essential stuff in moving toward a clarification... --Mikhail

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Nicholas Thompson wrote:
> So, either the self is material,
>
> Or, "in" is understood in some way other than that it occupies a
> container.

Yes, by "inner self", I was talking about Mikhail's latter "me".

Mikhail Gorelkin wrote:
> [second me] is the product of thinking of the first one (me as I
> think about me)

So, I do not intend "inner" to mean "inside a container".  I mean
"inner" in the sense of the mental constructs we build when thinking
about our selves. A model of our selves as viewed from within.

Both "me"s are part of the self, which is exactly the point I was trying
to argue with Mikhail, neither the physical self nor this endo-self are
less real than the other.

--
glen e. p. ropella, 971-219-3846, http://tempusdictum.com


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