Posted by
Phil Henshaw-2 on
Jul 03, 2007; 10:22am
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/JASSS-and-despair-tp524155p524165.html
The task of associating abstract and real things is rather complicated,
and often made more so by using the same names for them, so it appears
that when you're referring to a physical system you're discussing
entirely some network of abstract rules, for example. Even though you
say the article refers to physical systems, is it possible they just
switch back and forth between ways of referring to things, while being
consistent with an 'information world' model they assume everyone
understands to be the baseline of abstract discussion?
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] JASSS (and despair)
Ah, if it was just a case of them drawing conclusions about these
artificial societies. Unfortunately the authors explicitly state that
their conclusions apply to real societies. In this issue alone they
explain the paucity of women in corporate management, the effect of mass
media on cultural dynamics, the distribution of land holdings in the
Caparo Forest Reserve in Venezuela, and more. These papers all claim
that their conclusions explain real world behaviours; all without even
the most rudimentary comparison with real measurements.
Robert
On 6/30/07, Marcus G. Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:
Robert Holmes wrote:
> I dunno, after our discussions about the nature of explanation,
> reading JASSS left me thoroughly depressed. Want to guess how many
> papers compared their simulation results with real historic data?
I don't see a problem because their study is of _artificial_
societies. The development of math and methods for study of a subclass
of abstract processes...
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