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gintis's Game Theory Evolving

Posted by Owen Densmore on Aug 10, 2006; 4:37am
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On Aug 9, 2006, at 10:31 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Has anybody any thoughts to share about Gintis's new book?  I have  
> like some of Gintis's work as presented at conferences.  But I am  
> struggling with this book because, despite an aura of  
> userfriendliness, the book seems to leave huge steps out.  It seems  
> to be a compilation of dozens and dozens of games with groovy names  
> and silly stories. Is this what game theory IS when one gets close  
> to it?   Is it true that game theory consists of story upon story  
> as counterintuitive as the prisonner's dilemma game story. ( To  
> "cooperate" means to me to be a "cooperative" witness; to defect,  
> would be to renege on an agreement with the DA to cooperate;  
> teaching students what these words mean to game theorists is like  
> making them drink Jamestown Kookaid;).  I have learned that there  
> are more categories of games I have to worry about, and I suppose  
> that is good.  I have learned that there are simultaneous games in  
> which the players move at the same moment and serial games in which  
> one player moves and then the other.  Also there are symetrical  
> games in which, for instance your payoff playing strategy A with me  
> is the same as my strategy playing Strategy A with you.  So, I have  
> learned that the game I have spent most time thinking about ...  
> Tragedy of the Commons type games lke PD games.are actually a  
> narrow category of games, Simultaneous, symetrical, two player  
> games.  (Please dont hesitate to correct me on any of this)
>
> So, I wondering, within the scope of simultaneous symmetrical  two  
> player games,  are there a zillion games that differ only in subtle  
> changes in their payoff tables AND in their groovy names and silly  
> stories?  Could all of this be collapsed into a 4d space (one  
> dimension for each value in a 2x2 table and the space analysed?  
> The goal would be to identify interesting regions in this space.
>
> I understand about the importance of metaphors in science and about  
> the value of "surplus meaning" in models, even  including the stuff  
> which is just plain facetious.  I KNOW that one cannot disprove  
> Darwinism by demonstrating that there is no great FarmerInTheSky  
> called NATURE who is doing the "selecting".  But if this game  
> theory literature is as it appears in Gintis's book, is it not  
> surplus meaning gone wild????
>
> Feel free to jerk on my chain here:  I just dont  get it.
>
> Nick
>
>
> Nicholas Thompson
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