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theories is. Should scientific laws be about 'essences' or 'forces' or only
sentence!). I think that social science has the same problem, and it is
and one attribute ('telic'). Personally, I believe that the most promising
the initial conditions (e.g. there is some common logic to trading which
of network, and so on). An implication is that just observing distributions
> Interesting idea. In various and sundry experiments with drug ABM's
> it seemed like assumptions were being made that were candidate
> assertions for a "canonical society." For instance, we set up
> networks on a power law distribution assumption following Barabassi.
> We assumed that openness to change among agents followed the normal
> distribution shown by Rogers' work on Diffusion of Innovation. Do
> these tend to be how "normal" small societies organize themselves? If
> so, why is that? If so, in what kinds of social ecologies do they
> depart from it?
>
> Then there's an interesting connection between ABMs and the robust
> trend across many social and psychological theories that a theory has
> to be "trifocal." Agents are the centerpiece, then a level down to
> model their knowledge and rules, then a level up to observe the
> system that they create on the one hand and that effects them in
> turn. Is that a minimal requirement for a unified social theory?
>
> Then there's the natural selection principle. Some sort of co-
> evolutionary mechanisms would seem to be required, but they'll have
> to be different from the classic Darwinian. For instance, human
> agents are telic, they organize around imagined future states. If we
> consider memes--a problematic concept, I know, but one that brings
> ideas into the picture--reproduction rates can vary from extremely
> slow to extremely quick. With memes mutations occur frequently and
> sometimes dramatically. Memetic crossover occurs in all kinds of
> interesting ways. A unified social theory will have to take all this
> into account in addition to natural selection on biological variation
> if it wants to explain human social conditions.
>
> Been out of the FRIAM loop for a bit so hope all that isn't a re-run.
> A good challenge, Jochen, that phrase. Vielversprechend.
>
>
> Mike
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> On Jun 6, 2006, at 4:18 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote:
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>>
>> Where is the difference between steps, "depth" and time,
>> if "the depth of a system" is simply defined in terms of the
>> number of parallel computational steps needed to simulate it ?
>> Depth seems to be just another word for (virtual) time.
>>
>> Much more interesting is the question if there is a unified
>> theory for complex systems in terms of agents and multi-agent
>> systems. In psychology and sociology we have a patchwork of
>> theories, which arises from the complexity of the research object.
>> A complex system is often described by several theories and
>> multiple models, depending on the particular perspective. We
>> have the psychology of Sigmund Freud, of C.G. Jung, of Skinner,
>> of William James, etc. In sociology we have the sociology of
>> Durkheim, of Weber, of Luhmann, a few smaller theories like role
>> theory and "rational choice theory" and a lot of vague theories
>> like Giddens "theory of structuration".
>>
>> These theories can be correlated to one another if we
>> place them in a grid or coordinate system with two axes:
>> * historical vs. regular behavior (exceptional vs. expected events)
>> * micro vs. macro behavior (low-level vs high-level patterns)
>>
>> The behavior of a complex system depends neither solely on
>> individual events and accidents nor on universal laws.
>> Both sites play an important role, historical accidents (see
>> for example the principles "sensitivity to initial conditions",
>> butterfly effect, frozen accidents, path dependence) and
>> regular laws. Likewise, the behavior of complex systems
>> depends neither solely on individual microscopic actions nor
>> on macroscopic structures, institutions and organizations.
>> Both layers are important (see for example the principles emergence,
>> swarm intelligence, self-organization).
>>
>> The most interesting behavior occurs in the center or at the
>> middle, if microscopic actions have a strong effect on macroscopic
>> behavior and vice versa, or if historical accidents become global
>> patterns. An ideal theory would combine both aspects, historical and
>> regular behavior, micro and macro behavior by defining universal
>> "laws of history" or "theories of emergence". Do you think it is
>> possible to discover or formulate such a unified theory? Or at
>> least a unifying principle, such as evolution in Biology ?
>> Probably evolution is again the unifying principle here..
>>
>> -J.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Stephen Guerin
>> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 9:10 PM
>> To: friam at redfish.com
>> Subject: [FRIAM] FW: SFI Seminar: Complexity, Parallel Computation,and
>> Statistical Physics
>>
>> Has anyone seen any papers on logical depth in the context of agent-
>> based
>> modeling? I know we could talk about n agents * t steps * a rough
>> description of agent and environment complexity, but I was
>> wondering if
>> anyone's done some more formal work...
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>>
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