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more metrics - was:geek novels

Posted by Bruce Sawhill on Nov 23, 2005; 10:58pm
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/more-metrics-was-geek-novels-tp520949p520954.html

my E number is about 30.

Bruce


On Nov 23, 2005, at 1:30 PM, Russell Standish wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 12:06:30PM -0700, Robert Holmes wrote:
>> So all this scoring of ourselves against the geek novel list  
>> reminded me of
>> a couple of metrics I recently came across in Physics World. One  
>> is the
>> "h-index" (http://physicsweb.org/articles/news/9/8/9/1), which  
>> quantifies an
>> individuals scientific output as the number of papers (peer-
>> reviewed) you
>> have written that have been cited at least that number of times.  
>> My h-index
>> is 1 (I've written one peer-reviewed paper that got cited once); real
>> scientists score in the 20-40 range after 20 years or so in the  
>> business. So
>> what's the highest h-index in FRIAM?
>
> 20 is a pretty high h number. You can compute h approximately quite
> easily from Google Scholar, a little less easily from ISI. I did it
> for myself, both my PhD supervisors and several other academic
> individuals I know of. My h number was 7 according to Google, and 6
> according to ISI. My first PhD supervisor was about 5, and my second
> one about 23. The second supervisor is considered a leader in his
> field. Nobel prize winners were typically reported with h values in  
> the
> 30s. Most other scientists I am acquainted with (of my vintage) came
> in under 10, so my h-value was actually fairly average (gave me some
> sort of comfort, at least).
>
> Whilst the h value is considerably better than raw publication and
> citation values, it is still prone to the fashion effect. Working in a
> fashionable area of science (eg gene sequencing) will give you a  
> higher
> h score than an unfashionable one (eg complex systems).
>
>>
>> The Physics World correspondence that followed their item on the h-
>> index
>> drew a parallel with the Eddington Number E, invented by famed  
>> astronomer
>> and amateur cyclist Arthur Eddington. E is defined as  the highest  
>> number of
>> days in your life on which you have cycled more than E miles. My E  
>> is about
>> 15. Eddington's was 87 when he died. So who's got the highest E  
>> number here?
>>
>
> The longest distance I did/do regularly is about 10km. Translating
> this into miles, that would be around 7 (IIRC)? I have occasionally
> done longer distances, of course, but not more than 7 times...
>
> So I would have to be (7,7) then ...
>
>
>> Robert
>>
>> (h, E) = (1, 15)
>
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