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the intermountain West. Hopefully by then the forests will be thinner
and we'll have Mr. Fusion, or at least Mr. Wind and Mrs. Solar. I
> My impression is that burning wood (esp. pine tar) causes noxious air
> pollution. Anyone know for sure? It smells good around here in
> December
> but... How long would it take before the unwanted wood, say pinions
> killed
> by bark beetles, runs out? Would "we" be able to resist burning good
> timber? In the lobby of the First National Bank of Santa Fe there are
> photos of the hills around Santa Fe taken in the late 1800's. The
> density
> of the pinion and juniper was much less than it is today. My friend
> Tom
> Noble thinks that's because everyone burned those trees for heat. I
> am more
> inclined to believe that there was something like a bark beetle
> infestation
> before that time.
>
> Frank
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce Sawhill" <
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>> In the latest IEEE magazine, there's an interesting article about
>> absorbing fluctuations in wind power on the big island of Hawai'i.
>> Could also apply to many small wood fired plants, though the
>> fluctuations shouldn't be so large.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> On Friday, August 15, 2003, at 02:43 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
>>
>>> One advantage of the current approach is that if some component goes
>>> down
>>> the grid is still there (usually!) and end users may never even know
>>> there
>>> was a problem. Does this scale down? If Truchas' turbine stripped
>>> its
>>> gears could the one at Trampas provide backup?
>>>
>>> Frank
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>>> or
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Carl Tollander
>>> To:
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>>> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 7:11 PM
>>> Subject: RE: [FRIAM] Score one for small-scale distributed power
>>>
>>>
>>> "due to natural causes"
>>> Once again, the invisible hand presents us with an invisible finger.
>>>
>>> I would think that small-scale power (neighborhood microturbines or
>>> constellations thereof) might damp out the effects of the large scale
>>> failures (and associated grime-waves), not get rid of them entirely.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:
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>>> Behalf Of Belinda Wong-Swanson
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:20 PM
>>> To:
[hidden email];
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>>> Subject: [FRIAM] Score one for small-scale distributed power
>>>
>>>
>>> Power Outages Hit
>>> New York, Other Cities
>>>
>>> NEW YORK -- A massive power blackout hit U.S. and Canadian cities
>>> Thursday,
>>> closing nuclear power plants in Ohio and New York state, driving
>>> workers in
>>> New York City and Toronto into the streets, and shutting subways in
>>> blistering heat. The blackout apparently was due to natural causes
>>> and
>>> there
>>> was no sign of terrorism, officials in New York and Washington said.
>>>
>>> New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg said it was likely the blackout
>>> started in the Niagara Falls area and quickly spread.
>>>
>>>
>>> Reporting by Stacy Forster and Carl Bialik of The Wall Street Journal
>>> Online, with contributions from the Associated Press and Dow Jones
>>> Newswires.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "It was probably a natural occurrence which disrupted the power
>>> system
>>> up
>>> there and apparently for reasons we don't know it cascaded down
>>> through New
>>> York state over into Connecticut, as far south as New Jersey and as
>>> far west
>>> as Ohio," he said.
>>>
>>> A senior law enforcement official, speaking on condition of
>>> anonymity,
>>> said
>>> the Federal Bureau of Investigation had determined the blackout was a
>>> "natural occurrence" and there was no evidence of terrorism, and that
>>> the
>>> Homeland Security Department agreed.
>>>
>>> Power was slowly returning to New York state by 6 p.m., about two
>>> hours
>>> after the outage, Mr. Bloomberg told reporters at City Hall. Still,
>>> he
>>> said
>>> it would be "hours, not minutes" before power was fully restored to
>>> New York
>>> City. In New York, the blackout affected subways, elevators and
>>> airports,
>>> including John F. Kennedy and LaGuardia airports.
>>>
>>> Many Workers Are Stranded
>>>
>>> Thousands of Manhattan workers were sent home early from work into
>>> the
>>> 90-degree heat, but many had no easy way of getting home.
>>>
>>> At the Canal Street subway station downtown, streams of people
>>> emerged
>>> covered in grime.
>>>
>>> Anthony Daliva, a computer technician from New Jersey who works
>>> downtown,
>>> was among them. He described being on the train when it stopped right
>>> past
>>> the station. After being trapped for about an hour in what he
>>> described as
>>> incredible heat -- and darkness except for emergency lights -- he and
>>> others
>>> climbed between the trains and up a ladder on the side of track
>>> toward
>>> the
>>> street light. His blue shirt and khaki pants were covered in dirt.
>>>
>>> Near Canal Street, Erika Pietsch, a TV producer who lives in Astoria,
>>> Queens, across the East River, said she had to evacuate her building.
>>> "I'm
>>> trying to figure out my plan of attack to get home," she said.
>>>
>>> Traffic lights were out. Mike Greenfield, a construction estimator,
>>> was
>>> stuck in traffic on Watts Street near the Holland Tunnel, where
>>> police
>>> were
>>> directing traffic. Mr. Greenfield was coming back from Queens headed
>>> west to
>>> Freehold, N.J., and says he is used to bad traffic. "It's like this
>>> everyday," he said.
>>>
>>> Ralph St. Pierre said he was on the subway in between stations when
>>> the
>>> power went out and the train stopped. He said he followed the
>>> conductor out
>>> of the tunnel. Later, people could be seen streaming out of subway
>>> stations.
>>>
>>> Several ice-cream stores in Manhattan said they wouldn't be giving
>>> away
>>> their goods, which are melting without power for refrigeration. "I
>>> don't
>>> want to give it out," said Steven Chan, proprietor of a Baskin
>>> Robbins
>>> in
>>> the Lower East Side neighborhood. "Otherwise, there would be a riot."
>>>
>>> In Toronto, Canada's largest city, workers also fled their buildings
>>> after
>>> the blackout hit shortly after 4 p.m. EDT. There also were widespread
>>> outages in Ottawa, the capital.
>>>
>>> Traffic lights were out throughout downtown Cleveland and other major
>>> cities, creating havoc at the beginning of rush hour.
>>>
>>> There were reports of outages in northern New Jersey and in several
>>> Vermont
>>> towns. In Connecticut, Metro-North Railroad service was knocked out.
>>> Lights
>>> flickered at state government buildings in Hartford.
>>>
>>> Every prison in New York state reported a loss of power and switched
>>> to
>>> backup generators, said James Flateau, a spokesman for the state
>>> Department
>>> of Corrections.
>>>
>>> In Albany, N.Y., several people were trapped in elevators in Empire
>>> State
>>> Plaza, but most had been freed by 5 p.m. People in New York City
>>> lined
>>> up 10
>>> deep or more at pay phones, with cellphone service disrupted in some
>>> areas.
>>>
>>> Mike Saltzman, a spokesman for New York Power Authority, a
>>> state-owned
>>> utility in White Plains, N.Y., said its two largest hydroelectric
>>> plants,
>>> including Niagara Falls and St. Lawrence-FDR, were operating. He said
>>> he did
>>> not know the status of 18 other smaller plants.
>>>
>>> "There is no evidence of any terrorism at this point," said Michael
>>> Sheehan,
>>> deputy commissioner for terrorism of New York City's Police
>>> Department.
>>> "We've talked to Washington and there are rumors, but none of them
>>> pans
>>> out."
>>>
>>> Top New York police officers gathered at the department's operations
>>> center
>>> downtown where the focus was on the ramifications of the blackout
>>> rather
>>> than its cause. "We're more concerned about getting the traffic
>>> lights
>>> running and making sure the city is okay than what caused it," a
>>> police
>>> spokesman said at the center.
>>>
>>> Nuclear Reactors Shut Down
>>>
>>> Four nuclear power reactors -- two in New York and two in Ohio --
>>> reported
>>> they were shut down because of the loss of off-site power, according
>>> to the
>>> Nuclear Regulatory Commission in Bethesda, Md. They were the two
>>> Indian
>>> Point reactors in New York state, and the Perry and Fermi nuclear
>>> power
>>> plants in Ohio.
>>>
>>> The North American Electric Reliability Council, an industry group
>>> responsible for monitoring the integrity of the system, said the
>>> power
>>> outages were "widespread and appear to be centered around Lake Erie,
>>> although they are affecting the entire eastern interconnection."
>>>
>>> "We do not know the cause at present but will continue to evaluate
>>> the
>>> situation," said Ellen Vancko, speaking for the council.
>>>
>>> Planes Are Grounded
>>>
>>> The Federal Aviation Administration instituted airport ground stops
>>> at
>>> Cleveland, Kennedy, LaGuardia and Newark, N.J. That meant planes from
>>> other
>>> cities heading to those four airports could not take off. However,
>>> air
>>> traffic control facilities had backup power, and planes already in
>>> the
>>> air
>>> could land at those airports, said Laura Brown, speaking for the FAA.
>>>
>>> At the Homeland Security Department, spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said
>>> federal
>>> officials were still gathering information and had not determined a
>>> cause.
>>>
>>> The department "is working with state and local officials and the
>>> energy
>>> sector to determine the cause of the outage as well as what response
>>> measures may be needed to be taken," he said. He said everyone should
>>> "listen and heed the advice of the local authorities."
>>>
>>> Verizon Communications Inc., the largest local telephone company in
>>> the
>>> northeastern U.S., said its network is operating normally and has not
>>> been
>>> affected by a widespread power outage.
>>>
>>> Securities regulators were optimistic that U.S. markets would open as
>>> scheduled Friday. "There's no talk about not opening," said Annette
>>> Nazareth, Securities and Exchange Commission market regulation
>>> director.
>>> Power was in place through the close of trading Thursday and Mr.
>>> Nazareth
>>> said the Depository Trust Co. had cleared trades for the day before
>>> power
>>> failed.
>>>
>>> The blackouts rivaled those in the West on Aug. 11, 1996, when heat,
>>> sagging
>>> power lines and unusually high demand for electricity caused an
>>> outage
>>> that
>>> affected four million customers in nine states, one of the most
>>> severe
>>> outages in U.S. history.
>>>
>>> A blackout in New York City in 1977 left some nine million people
>>> without
>>> electricity for up to 25 hours.
>>>
>>> Updated August 14, 2003 6:08 p.m.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Belinda Wong-Swanson, Principal
>>> Innov8 LLC, 624 Agua Fria, Santa Fe, NM 87501
>>> www.innov8llc.com
>>> email:
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