http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/leadership-in-flocks-tp4868514p4882798.html
circumstantial opening, they are indeed emergent throughout the system.
suppress this emergent property of the system. Rather than stepping
> I haven't read the papers all the way through, but on first blush, I
> don't see them as contradictory. Either could be correct.
>
> A "leader" - whether bird or person - could act first due to internal
> traits (inclination, ability, imagination) or external influence. The
> first implies that the leader is different from the others in some
> way, while the second implies only a situational difference:
> circumstance rather than inherent traits.
>
> Once the leader acts, this creates space for the other birds/people to
> act similarly, and follow the leader. The followers must have had the
> same inclination towards this action, because they end up doing it,
> too ... they just weren't over the tipping point yet. There was
> something missing that kept them from acting first. The leader's
> action clearly provides the missing element, and so all the followers
> perform the same action.
>
> The remarkable thing about the flocking models, such as the one in
> JASS, is that they show that leadership doesn't have to be due to an
> internal trait. It may simply be a situational difference among very
> similar agents. Before these models were put forth, the prevailing
> view was that leadership is always endogenous to the leader. Now, at
> least, we can consider other possibilities, whether or not they end up
> being correct.
>
> -t
>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:57 PM, glen e. p. ropella
> <
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>
> sarbajit roy wrote circa 10-04-09 06:34 AM:
> > The religious grouping I belong to had cause to study/discuss
> this about 150
> > years back (concerning flocks of men not birds). The leader of
> the faction
> > in opposition to mine (which means my faction vehemently
> disagrees with his
> > view) had this to say
>
> That quote from your opposition seems to fall in line with the nature
> article, the idea that particular birds/humans (presumably with
> particular traits, inbred or learned) turn out to be leaders. I
> take it
> from your statement that you agree more with the jasss article, that
> leaders with no particularly exceptional traits emerge? Right?
>
> Of course, to even have this discussion, we have to allow
> ourselves the
> metaphor between human cliques and bird flocks...
>
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