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Re: EMERGENCE SEMINAR V: Dennett et al; WAS: emergence seminar: what's next?

Posted by Owen Densmore on Oct 07, 2009; 3:01am
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/Re-EMERGENCE-SEMINAR-V-Dennett-et-al-WAS-emergence-seminar-what-s-next-tp3772391p3779473.html

BTW: I believe this may be more in the line of Nick's statement:
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deductive-nomological_model

Nick?

     -- Owen


On Oct 6, 2009, at 8:51 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:

> The specific phrase I believe we are discussing is, on page 64:
>  "The preceding considerations suggest the following redefinition of  
> emergence: The occurrence of a characteristic W in an object w is  
> emergent relative to a theory T, a part relation Pt, and a class G  
> of attributes if that occurrence cannot be deduced by means of T  
> from a characterization of the Pt-parts of w with respect to all the  
> attributes in G."
>
>> Main Entry: no·mo·log·i·cal
>> Function: adjective
>> Etymology: nomology science of physical and logical laws, from  
>> Greek nomos + English -logy
>> : relating to or expressing basic physical laws or rules of  
>> reasoning <nomological universals>
>
> We have found that the discussions within the book use words in ways  
> specific to their context.  Thus Nick's "deductive nomological  
> account of explanation" is likely to mean more than the individual  
> words might imply.
>
> Possibly we are failing to use the word "logic"?
>
> I still think we should add it to the Nictionary if it is of use.  
> It seems to be.
>
>    -- Owen
>
>
> On Oct 6, 2009, at 5:17 PM, Robert Cordingley wrote:
>
>> It's already there:
>> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nomological
>> Robert C
>>
>> Owen Densmore wrote:
>>> On Oct 5, 2009, at 6:12 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>> But.... Hempel and Oppenheim are big on the deductiive  
>>>> nomological account of explanation.
>>>
>>> Could you clarify the above? .. and maybe add "nomological" to the  
>>> Nictionary?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>  -- Owen
>
>
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