Re: Faith and Science (was comm.)

Posted by Nick Thompson on
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/Re-comm-was-Re-FW-Re-Emergence-Seminar-BritishEmergence-tp3654051p3668780.html

Oh.  Sorry.  I got confused which side you are on.  so you agree that
Idealism is incoherent.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
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Clark University ([hidden email])
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> [Original Message]
> From: russell standish <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity
Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
> Date: 9/18/2009 7:46:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Faith and Science (was comm.)
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> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:53:19PM -0600, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
> > Wait a minute!  They cannot call it a dilusion because "dilusion"
> > presupposes a state of affairs that IS -- i.e., a reality.
>
> Yes, I would imagine that the people shouting illusion or delusion do
assume

> some different sort of reality. That was mostly my point - the term is
> ill defined, and not of much practical use AFAICS, except for fueling
> endless philosophical debates like this one.
>
> >
> > N
> >
> > Nicholas S. Thompson
> > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology,
> > Clark University ([hidden email])
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
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> >
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: russell standish <[hidden email]>
> > > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
<[hidden email]>
> > > Date: 9/18/2009 6:40:23 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Faith and Science (was comm.)
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 09:02:00PM -0700, Miles Parker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure I understand -- why not simply start from experience
and

> > > > awareness?
> > >
> > > Exactly. But then some people call that reality. Others call it
> > > delusion.
> > >
> > > Cheers
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