Re: Faith and Science (was comm.)

Posted by Nick Thompson on
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/Re-comm-was-Re-FW-Re-Emergence-Seminar-BritishEmergence-tp3654051p3668743.html

Well, I think so (emoticon for nervous smile).
 
How can you even write to me without presupposing my existence.  And as Holt points out, the route to pointing out that I am just a figment of your imagination requires the reality of something called an imagination.  Holt argued "Mind here" was a more complex statement than "world there" because the former presupposes the latter but not the reverse.  Contra Descartes, I am not aware of a mind, I am aware of a world.  Only after some heavy lifting can I separate a mind out from the rest of the world.  I mean, which do you think a baby discovers first: his world or his mind? 
 
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Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology,
Clark University ([hidden email])
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
 
 
 
 
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On Sep 17, 2009, at 8:32 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:

But it seems to me that every attack on realism I ever read presumes a
reality, including those I have been reading here.

Even mine? ;(


As Holt points out, you have to start somewhere and the simplest least
contorted beginning is to assume realism.  

I'm not sure I understand -- why not simply start from experience and awareness?

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