Re: Philosophy, Mathematics, and Science

Posted by Robert Holmes on Jul 12, 2009; 11:34pm
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/Analytic-philosophy-Wikipedia-the-free-encyclopedia-tp3235494p3248021.html

Wholeheartedly agree on a return to applied complexity.

I also like the idea of appropriate philosophy in appropriate doses. I'll be joining in your Wittgenstein & Math challenge.

-- Robert

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Owen Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

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Lets not fret.  I'll filter better in the future.  But I *really* do not want to loose our focus on applied complexity.
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I note my challenge on the two VSI books (Math, Wittgenstein) was ignored.  Like the Cauchy Sequence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cauchy_sequence which bridges the discrete and continuous, this bridges the math/philosophy gap by exposing one fine mathematician's use of philosophy to lay the basis for his abstract approach.

   -- Owen

On Jul 12, 2009, at 2:06 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:

Owen,

well, some of the discussion HAS been off list. Which demonstrates some of
the peril of that strategy, which is that you now don't have access to
parts of the argument.

But way do you want it out of sight?  What are you protecting and from what
evil?   There is something faintly ..... puritanical ... about your
position.  As if a bumptious conversation about ideas was ... like public
nakedness. .  Just avert your eyes!

Finally, one last ad hominem:  It seems to be that some of the people most
frustrated by this discussion are themselves EXTREMELY thoughtful and
reflective people.  the kind of people who watch ted videos and stuff.   Is
it that we are TEMPTING you to waste your time?

My reason for keep some of these conversations on this list is that (1) I
keep hearing from new people with interesting opinions and (2) I keep
hoping that you folks who understand computers will contribute from that
knowledge to such questions as how computers are designed to gather and
make use of knowledge about themselves.


Nick

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