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Is the program we built together.... MOTH ..... a thing?
refined arguments. Programs and simulations show the entailments of an
could hope for.
Nicholas S. Thompson
> [Original Message]
> From: Owen Densmore <
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> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
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> Date: 7/12/2009 1:13:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Philosophy, Mathematics, and Science
>
> On Jul 12, 2009, at 11:06 AM, Jack K. Horner wrote:
> > ...That granted, if we are faced, as has been asserted, with a
> > choice of either philosophizing or "building things", here are some
> > challenges:
> >
> > 1. What are "things"?
>
> Something that lasts. Ideas are fine. What is the philosophic
> equivalent of a Ring?
>
> > 2. Which "things" should we build and why?
>
> Anything that lasts. So that it can be built upon.
>
> > 3. Is knowledge/ABM/science possible without making
> > at least some presumptions (even if they are only
> > conventions) about meaning, logic, and perception?
>
> Yes.
>
> > ...
> > Bottom line: we can choose to ignore "philosophy", but we can't make
> > it go away.
>
> Yes we can: we can ask that community to start a separate mail list.
> It clearly is both popular and important. But not to the original
> intent of Friam, which was to create a community of those interested
> in SFI and applied complexity.
>
> Let me be clear: philosophy is fine, we all participate in our own
> personal brand of it to get through life. I none the less agree:
> Please God No.
>
> There is nothing at all wrong in building a new list, it happens all
> the time that successful communities do so. If it would help, I can
> construct it for folks needing it in case the philosophic excludes
> network expertise. It would be, I think, based on the Philosophy of
> Science, right? Its a commendable discourse. But not for me and many
> of the Friam list.
>
> -- Owen
>
>
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