Posted by
Nick Thompson on
Jul 02, 2009; 3:14pm
URL: http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/Re-Direct-conversation-tp3137870p3195646.html
Owen,
(1)Yes, I do assume that most people delete these messages and press on,
as I delete most (but not all) messages about ... say ... the the latest
4.0.17a.alpha version of Groovy on Rails.
Different stroke for different folks.
(2)Lord we tried on the summaries. Unfortunately we couldnt agree
sufficiently to produce a synopsis.
(3) I am aware that you believe the following:
> Most philosophical discussions of this ilk simply end in semantic
> deadly embrace. They are eventually resolved, if ever, at great cost
> of word length. The Kolmodorov complexity is quite low:
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolmogorov_complexity> in that much compression could be attained.
And, accordingly, our inabiliity to produce such a summary distressed me
deeply. This I take to be not as a failiure of philosphy but a failure on
my (our) part to do it right, but I fear you will draw another conclusion.
.
all the best,
nick
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology,
Clark University (
[hidden email])
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/> [Original Message]
> From: Owen Densmore <
[hidden email]>
> To: <
[hidden email]>; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity
Coffee Group <
[hidden email]>
> Date: 7/2/2009 8:45:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Direct conversation - 1st vs 3rd person
>
> Please understand that the majority of FRIAM folks simply delete these
> and press on.
>
> Please understand that one or more FRIAMers politely asked for
> summaries and did not receive them.
>
> Please understand that "Please God no" is a form of netiquette. It is
> a vote, not a censure.
>
> I for one would expect more formalism in this discussion. I believe
> most of your discussion could be placed in a set-theoretic framework
> and I would prefer that.
>
> Most philosophical discussions of this ilk simply end in semantic
> deadly embrace. They are eventually resolved, if ever, at great cost
> of word length. The Kolmodorov complexity is quite low:
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolmogorov_complexity> in that much compression could be attained.
>
> That said, you must understand that "Please God no" is a very high
> information content string that should be considered, not as censure,
> but as information.
>
> Do with it what you will.
>
> -- Owen
>
>
> On Jul 2, 2009, at 7:07 AM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
>
> > Dear List,
> >
> > Does one grumpy comment a consensus make?
> >
> > I can see how the philosophy of mind, a qualia, etc., might not be
> > everybody's cup of tea, but certainly it's well within FRIAM's
> > domain and the discussion has drawn out some new and interesting
> > folks. Eh? (As we Canadians say?).
> >
> > Back in a week.
> >
> > N
> >
> > Nicholas S. Thompson
> > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology,
> > Clark University (
[hidden email])
> >
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Robert Holmes
> > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> > Sent: 7/1/2009 5:42:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Direct conversation - 1st vs 3rd person
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Russ Abbott <
[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > <snip>
> >
> > P.S. Since this is heating up again, I've added the list back to the
> > addressees.
> >
> >
> > Please God no.
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