Re: Willfull Ignorance - Satisfies NickCriteria E

Posted by Phil Henshaw-2 on
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The Matt Taibbi quote is an amazingly clear description of the dilemma of minds that “make sense” of things by plugging in stereotypes of the real world and so creating an imaginary one lacking internal conflicts.      The error common to all such “confusions” seems to be discussing things in terms of pictures in our heads without a reliable way of referring to any independent reality people might consider.

 

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Douglas Roberts
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 2:08 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Willfull Ignorance - Satisfies NickCriteria E

 

It was a good rant, wasn't it...

Since Steve saw fit to bring up "willful ignorance", and Marcus, Sarah Palin:  what do you want to bet that McCain's creationist-the-world-is-6,000-years-old gun-toting-I-can-see-Russia-from-my-window sidekick garners approximately 50% of the vote next month?

As Matt Taibbi said in his 'The Lies of Sarah Palin' interview with Rolling Stone Magazine earlier this week:

Here's the thing about Americans. You can send their kids off by the thousands to get their balls blown off in foreign lands for no reason at all, saddle them with billions in debt year after congressional year while they spend their winters cheerfully watching game shows and football, pull the rug out from under their mortgages, and leave them living off their credit cards and their Wal-Mart salaries while you move their jobs to China and Bangalore.

And none of it matters, so long as you remember a few months before Election Day to offer them a two-bit caricature culled from some cutting-room-floor episode of Roseanne as part of your presidential ticket.

And if she's a good enough likeness of a loudmouthed Middle American archetype, as Sarah Palin is, John Q. Public will drop his giant sized bag of Doritos in gratitude, wipe the sizzlin' picante dust from his lips and rush to the booth to vote for her.



You want to talk about willful ignorance?  Take a good look around you.

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On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Marcus G. Daniels <[hidden email]> wrote:

Steve Smith wrote:

The point of my talk of ignorance (willful and otherwise) is that to the extent we are complicit in our own problems, we *do* have the ability to retrieve some of our power from those we have given it to out of our own *willful ignorance*.

Good rant.  :-)

I''ll only add that power is not claimed by not being snowed by the misrepresentations of those having power.   It's also necessary to organize resources to influence those in power.  Folks like Sarah Palin recognize that information is a weapon (e.g. see her recent incredible remarks about Bill Ayers), but don't otherwise need to be limited by whether information is true in context.   Similarly corporate lobbyists are effective at influencing government, but that too is about action first and truth second.

Marcus
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"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -- Mark Twain



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