some thoughts on the educational aspect of 632

[Prof David West]

I have spent too much time thinking about this and too little actually
putting the ideas on paper.  Consider the attached to be an outline that
will be collectively developed and elaborated - or summarily rejected.

Warning - the attached is highly idiosyncratic and biased, even though
it is based on observations and interactions with the 632 and Friam
community.

Feedback - even jeers and catcalls - welcomed.

dave west
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[Robert Holmes]

Dave

I think the idea of using togas to denote status at 632 is inspired. Here's
what the different togas used to signify (from
http://ancient-culture.suite101.com/). I presume that Steve gets the *toga
picta*. I'll leave it to others to suggest additional person-toga mappings.

*Toga virilis* ? made of undyed wool, this toga was off-white in color and
was the "everyday" toga for an adult male citizen.

*Toga praetexta* ? Also off-white in color, this toga featured a wide purple
border that denoted the wearer was a Senator or some type of
Magistrate<http://ancienthistory.suite101.com/article.cfm/what_is_a_magistrate>,
such as an aedile<http://ancienthistory.suite101.com/article.cfm/what_is_an_aedile>or
consul <http://ancienthistory.suite101.com/article.cfm/what_is_a_consul>.
Stripes of varying width would have indicated the specific government
position.

*Toga pulla* ? this toga was a dark gray or brown garment that was reserved
for periods of mourning.

*Toga candida* ? A toga for political candidates, its bright white-dyed
color symbolized the candidate's purity and honesty.

*Toga picta* ? this special toga was dyed purple (the color of royalty), and
featured elaborate gold embroidery. It was worn by victorious generals
during triumphal
processions<http://roman-history.suite101.com/article.cfm/commemoration_in_the_forum_romanum>,
and later by Emperors for official state events.
Robert





On Nov 27, 2007 3:15 PM, Prof David West <profwest at fastmail.fm> wrote:

>
> I have spent too much time thinking about this and too little actually
> putting the ideas on paper.  Consider the attached to be an outline that
> will be collectively developed and elaborated - or summarily rejected.
>
> Warning - the attached is highly idiosyncratic and biased, even though
> it is based on observations and interactions with the 632 and Friam
> community.
>
> Feedback - even jeers and catcalls - welcomed.
>
> dave west
>
> ============================================================
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[Stephen Guerin]

Great summary, Dave!

This may be the first time 632 Agua Fria has been mentioned on FRIAM. As a
belated introduction, we're planning on opening what Dave is describing in his
attached Word document in March <http://www.santafecomplex.org>

We are working on the financial details...Hopefully much of the space will be
subsidized from various funding sources for the first couple of years. We hope
that many FRIAMers, local, and international, see this as a potential
collaboration space and we invite interested folks to participate and co-locate
for short or long periods of time.

More details will certainly follow. Also, please share with the list if you have
any good ideas for candidate projects or funders for the space...

-Stephen

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Prof David West [mailto:profwest at fastmail.fm]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:15 PM
> To: advisory at santafecomplex.org; The Friday Morning Applied
> ComplexityCoffee Group
> Subject: [FRIAM] some thoughts on the educational aspect of 632
>
>
> I have spent too much time thinking about this and too little
> actually putting the ideas on paper.  Consider the attached
> to be an outline that will be collectively developed and
> elaborated - or summarily rejected.
>
> Warning - the attached is highly idiosyncratic and biased,
> even though it is based on observations and interactions with
> the 632 and Friam community.
>
> Feedback - even jeers and catcalls - welcomed.
>
> dave west
>

[Owen Densmore]

Attached?

On Nov 28, 2007, at 5:34 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote:

> Great summary, Dave!
>
> This may be the first time 632 Agua Fria has been mentioned on  
> FRIAM. As a
> belated introduction, we're planning on opening what Dave is  
> describing in his
> attached Word document in March <http://www.santafecomplex.org>
>
> We are working on the financial details...Hopefully much of the  
> space will be
> subsidized from various funding sources for the first couple of  
> years. We hope
> that many FRIAMers, local, and international, see this as a potential
> collaboration space and we invite interested folks to participate  
> and co-locate
> for short or long periods of time.
>
> More details will certainly follow. Also, please share with the  
> list if you have
> any good ideas for candidate projects or funders for the space...
>
> -Stephen
>
> --- -. .   ..-. .. ... ....   - .-- ---   ..-. .. ... ....
> Stephen.Guerin at Redfish.com
> www.Redfish.com
> 624 Agua Fria Street, Santa Fe, NM 87501
> mobile: [phone]
> office: Santa Fe, NM [phone] / London, UK [phone]
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Prof David West [mailto:profwest at fastmail.fm]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:15 PM
>> To: advisory at santafecomplex.org; The Friday Morning Applied
>> ComplexityCoffee Group
>> Subject: [FRIAM] some thoughts on the educational aspect of 632
>>
>>
>> I have spent too much time thinking about this and too little
>> actually putting the ideas on paper.  Consider the attached
>> to be an outline that will be collectively developed and
>> elaborated - or summarily rejected.
>>
>> Warning - the attached is highly idiosyncratic and biased,
>> even though it is based on observations and interactions with
>> the 632 and Friam community.
>>
>> Feedback - even jeers and catcalls - welcomed.
>>
>> dave west
>>
>
>
> ============================================================
> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org

[Owen Densmore]

On Nov 28, 2007, at 5:34 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote:

> Great summary, Dave!
>
> This may be the first time 632 Agua Fria has been mentioned on  
> FRIAM. As a
> belated introduction, we're planning on opening what Dave is  
> describing in his
> attached Word document in March <http://www.santafecomplex.org>
>
> We are working on the financial details...Hopefully much of the  
> space will be
> subsidized from various funding sources for the first couple of  
> years. We hope
> that many FRIAMers, local, and international, see this as a potential
> collaboration space and we invite interested folks to participate  
> and co-locate
> for short or long periods of time.
>
> More details will certainly follow. Also, please share with the  
> list if you have
> any good ideas for candidate projects or funders for the space...
>
> -Stephen

In case anyone would prefer .pdf, here it is:

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[Merle Lefkoff]

Owen Densmore wrote:

> Attached?
>
> On Nov 28, 2007, at 5:34 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote:
>
>  
>> Great summary, Dave!
>>
>> This may be the first time 632 Agua Fria has been mentioned on  
>> FRIAM. As a
>> belated introduction, we're planning on opening what Dave is  
>> describing in his
>> attached Word document in March <http://www.santafecomplex.org>
>>
>> We are working on the financial details...Hopefully much of the  
>> space will be
>> subsidized from various funding sources for the first couple of  
>> years. We hope
>> that many FRIAMers, local, and international, see this as a potential
>> collaboration space and we invite interested folks to participate  
>> and co-locate
>> for short or long periods of time.
>>
>> More details will certainly follow. Also, please share with the  
>> list if you have
>> any good ideas for candidate projects or funders for the space...
>>
>> -Stephen
>>
>> --- -. .   ..-. .. ... ....   - .-- ---   ..-. .. ... ....
>> Stephen.Guerin at Redfish.com
>> www.Redfish.com
>> 624 Agua Fria Street, Santa Fe, NM 87501
>> mobile: [phone]
>> office: Santa Fe, NM [phone] / London, UK [phone]
>>
>>
>>    
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Prof David West [mailto:profwest at fastmail.fm]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:15 PM
>>> To: advisory at santafecomplex.org; The Friday Morning Applied
>>> ComplexityCoffee Group
>>> Subject: [FRIAM] some thoughts on the educational aspect of 632
>>>
>>>
>>> I have spent too much time thinking about this and too little
>>> actually putting the ideas on paper.  Consider the attached
>>> to be an outline that will be collectively developed and
>>> elaborated - or summarily rejected.
>>>
>>> Warning - the attached is highly idiosyncratic and biased,
>>> even though it is based on observations and interactions with
>>> the 632 and Friam community.
>>>
>>> Feedback - even jeers and catcalls - welcomed.
>>>
>>> dave west
>>>
>>>      
>> ============================================================
>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
>> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
>>    
>
>
> ============================================================
> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
>
>
>
>  

Dave West,

Did you send an attachnent/your thoughts on 632?  I didn't see that.  
Thanks.

Merle Lefkoff

[Parks, Raymond]

Folks,

  I do have one suggestion regarding the "Cultural" section of the
paper.  If the SFC is going to include uniform tunics (see 2), then only
the first-time students/participants should be assigned red tunics.  I
want a gold tunic so I can shill for PriceLine in the name of complexity.

ObComplexity:  Has anyone studied the social networking of auction
web-sites?  Not just the reputation-based aspect, but the parts about
who buys from whom and how different communities are interconnected.

--
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