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Nick Thompson

scanning an old manuscript

Dear Friammers,

I have a 400 page type script, double sided that I would like to scan, and then edit. Fedex will scan it for a bit over 100 dollars. They will put it into a word file for free, after that. No guarantees. Does anybody know of a better deal in Santa Fe, or if we mailed the type script off anywhere? The quality of the OCR software is my most urgent concern. Are there some REALLY GOOD ONES? Would it be cheaper for me to buy the software myself?

Lemme know,

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Gillian Densmore

Re: scanning an old manuscript

@Software that can make prints look good. Yes and no. For What It's Worth my Desktop [Win10] has some pretty good stuff baked in. What some software may help with isn't just stuff looking good, but not going bonkers at speed, orkeeping you or the computer from loosing it. Edd, Ruth, or possibly Kim can speak way better to if a service is actually helpful their, and the goods and not so goods of them.

As a concrete example just for a simple scan like someones photo id so as they can get a new pass port. His scanner did fine. If it was more than a few pages (a book) Some place like RedBbbbles, CafePress someotimes offer things like:'Oops? No wories!' (Backup and prints in a cloud).

I have no idea if they offer a better deal or not. Have you asked Edd, Ruth, or Tom for experience?

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 6:21 PM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Dear Friammers,

I have a 400 page type script, double sided that I would like to scan, and then edit. Fedex will scan it for a bit over 100 dollars. They will put it into a word file for free, after that. No guarantees. Does anybody know of a better deal in Santa Fe, or if we mailed the type script off anywhere? The quality of the OCR software is my most urgent concern. Are there some REALLY GOOD ONES? Would it be cheaper for me to buy the software myself?

Lemme know,

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Tom Johnson

Re: scanning an old manuscript

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$100 sounds like a good price, but I would suggest a ten page test run.

On Dec 1, 2017 8:22 PM, "Nick Thompson" <[hidden email]> wrote:

Dear Friammers,

I have a 400 page type script, double sided that I would like to scan, and then edit. Fedex will scan it for a bit over 100 dollars. They will put it into a word file for free, after that. No guarantees. Does anybody know of a better deal in Santa Fe, or if we mailed the type script off anywhere? The quality of the OCR software is my most urgent concern. Are there some REALLY GOOD ONES? Would it be cheaper for me to buy the software myself?

Lemme know,

Nick

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Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Stephen Guerin-4

Re: scanning an old manuscript

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http://bfy.tw/FM9X. :-p

On Dec 1, 2017 6:22 PM, "Nick Thompson" <[hidden email]> wrote:

Dear Friammers,

I have a 400 page type script, double sided that I would like to scan, and then edit. Fedex will scan it for a bit over 100 dollars. They will put it into a word file for free, after that. No guarantees. Does anybody know of a better deal in Santa Fe, or if we mailed the type script off anywhere? The quality of the OCR software is my most urgent concern. Are there some REALLY GOOD ONES? Would it be cheaper for me to buy the software myself?

Lemme know,

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Roger Critchlow-2

Re: scanning an old manuscript

I've been reading a lot of ebooks from the library, and I'm noticing that some OCR errors keep slipping through. A character in the book I'm just now reading is rendered as Former and Fortner on facing pages. So don't expect even good OCR to leave you with nothing left to proof read.

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On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Stephen Guerin <[hidden email]> wrote:

http://bfy.tw/FM9X. :-p

On Dec 1, 2017 6:22 PM, "Nick Thompson" <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear Friammers,

I have a 400 page type script, double sided that I would like to scan, and then edit. Fedex will scan it for a bit over 100 dollars. They will put it into a word file for free, after that. No guarantees. Does anybody know of a better deal in Santa Fe, or if we mailed the type script off anywhere? The quality of the OCR software is my most urgent concern. Are there some REALLY GOOD ONES? Would it be cheaper for me to buy the software myself?

Lemme know,

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Brent Auble

Re: scanning an old manuscript

This isn't local to Santa Fe (it looks like they are in Boston), but I think this is the sort of service you're looking for:
Scanning & OCR Services

Scanning & OCR Services

We scan documents.

Brent

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Roger Critchlow
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Dan Roller

Re: scanning an old manuscript

In reply to this post by Nick Thompson

I also think $100 is cheap, if the scan is good.

Last Monday Abbyy Reader’s $99 special ended. I think they are pretty good at OCR.

If you don’t like Fedex’s OCR, but you have the scanned images, I’d stuff them into my Tesseract OCR for a second opinion. I’ve had been trying to OCR some truly dreadful images of WPA typewritten reports on onionskin paper for the NM Library as a volunteer.

Dan

On Dec 2, 2017, at 8:10 AM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

$100 sounds like a good price, but I would suggest a ten page test run.
TJ

On Dec 1, 2017 8:22 PM, "Nick Thompson" <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear Friammers,

I have a 400 page type script, double sided that I would like to scan, and then edit. Fedex will scan it for a bit over 100 dollars. They will put it into a word file for free, after that. No guarantees. Does anybody know of a better deal in Santa Fe, or if we mailed the type script off anywhere? The quality of the OCR software is my most urgent concern. Are there some REALLY GOOD ONES? Would it be cheaper for me to buy the software myself?

Lemme know,

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Nick Thompson

Re: scanning an old manuscript

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Thanks, you guys for all the suggestions. You guys NEVER fail me.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Roger Critchlow
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To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] scanning an old manuscript

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On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Stephen Guerin <[hidden email]> wrote:

http://bfy.tw/FM9X. :-p

On Dec 1, 2017 6:22 PM, "Nick Thompson" <[hidden email]> wrote:
Dear Friammers,

I have a 400 page type script, double sided that I would like to scan, and then edit. Fedex will scan it for a bit over 100 dollars. They will put it into a word file for free, after that. No guarantees. Does anybody know of a better deal in Santa Fe, or if we mailed the type script off anywhere? The quality of the OCR software is my most urgent concern. Are there some REALLY GOOD ONES? Would it be cheaper for me to buy the software myself?

Lemme know,

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Joe Spinden

Re: scanning an old manuscript

Anybody know about OCR into epub format ? For me, that is a vastly superior format.

Joe

On 12/2/17 4:33 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:

Thanks, you guys for all the suggestions. You guys NEVER fail me.

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Roger Critchlow
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 12:40 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] scanning an old manuscript

I've been reading a lot of ebooks from the library, and I'm noticing that some OCR errors keep slipping through. A character in the book I'm just now reading is rendered as Former and Fortner on facing pages. So don't expect even good OCR to leave you with nothing left to proof read.

-- rec --

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Stephen Guerin <[hidden email]> wrote:

http://bfy.tw/FM9X. :-p

On Dec 1, 2017 6:22 PM, "Nick Thompson" <[hidden email]> wrote:

Dear Friammers,

I have a 400 page type script, double sided that I would like to scan, and then edit. Fedex will scan it for a bit over 100 dollars. They will put it into a word file for free, after that. No guarantees. Does anybody know of a better deal in Santa Fe, or if we mailed the type script off anywhere? The quality of the OCR software is my most urgent concern. Are there some REALLY GOOD ONES? Would it be cheaper for me to buy the software myself?

Lemme know,

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Joe

Barry MacKichan

Re: scanning an old manuscript

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Under the assumptions

The 400 pages are unbound, or can be freed of a binding, and
The type script is pretty clean; i.e., it is not the 8th copy of a copy of a xerox or the 4th carbon copy, I can scan it for you. My scanner scans 25 sheets (50 sides) a minute, so it should take less than ten minutes.

The OCR will probably take up to an hour. I can send the result electronically, obviously.

The OCR is the ABBYY Fine Reader, which appears to be the embedded OCR engine in most products that support OCR, including a number of IOS programs. It is quite good if the typescript is clean and sharp.

There are inexpensive iPhone apps that go from the camera to an OCRed PDF, but I bet it wouldn’t take too long for you to conclude saving a quarter every 20 seconds is not really a good deal, and then you would need software to merge 400 independent PDF files into a single file.

--Barry

On 1 Dec 2017, at 18:21, Nick Thompson wrote:

Dear Friammers,

I have a 400 page type script, double sided that I would like to scan, and then edit. Fedex will scan it for a bit over 100 dollars. They will put it into a word file for free, after that. No guarantees. Does anybody know of a better deal in Santa Fe, or if we mailed the type script off anywhere? The quality of the OCR software is my most urgent concern. Are there some REALLY GOOD ONES? Would it be cheaper for me to buy the software myself?

Lemme know,

Nick

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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gepr

Re: scanning an old manuscript

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Coincidentally, I had the impetus to OCR this:

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015035549800;view=1up;seq=1

which produced this:

http://tempusdictum.com/misc/on-scientific-method-in-philosophy-russell-1914.txt

I used Tesseract: https://github.com/tesseract-ocr/

On 12/01/2017 05:21 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:
> I have a 400 page type script, double sided that I would like to scan, and then edit. Fedex will scan it for a bit over 100 dollars. They will put it into a word file for free, after that. No guarantees. Does anybody know of a better deal in Santa Fe, or if we mailed the type script off anywhere? The quality of the OCR software is my most urgent concern. Are there some REALLY GOOD ONES? Would it be cheaper for me to buy the software myself?

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Eric Charles-2

Re: scanning an old manuscript

Huh.... Depending on the fidelity you are looking for, I think its easier than that. Almost any reasonably new copy machine will be able to autofeed and scan the documents with OCR and email the file to you. Presumably there are a handful of copy machines at St. Johns that could do it just fine. You'd have to go in and correct some stuff by hand afterwards, but that's probably true with anything you aren't paying a bunch for. If you were here I could do it at work pretty quickly.

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On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 3:55 PM, uǝlƃ ☣ <[hidden email]> wrote:

Coincidentally, I had the impetus to OCR this:

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015035549800;view=1up;seq=1

which produced this:

http://tempusdictum.com/misc/on-scientific-method-in-philosophy-russell-1914.txt

I used Tesseract: https://github.com/tesseract-ocr/

On 12/01/2017 05:21 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:
> I have a 400 page type script, double sided that I would like to scan, and then edit. Fedex will scan it for a bit over 100 dollars. They will put it into a word file for free, after that. No guarantees. Does anybody know of a better deal in Santa Fe, or if we mailed the type script off anywhere? The quality of the OCR software is my most urgent concern. Are there some REALLY GOOD ONES? Would it be cheaper for me to buy the software myself?

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