"- no blank run without hydrogen to test the instruments and heat losses": Mary Yugo: Rich Murray 2011.10.29

[Rich Murray-2]

"- no blank run without hydrogen to test the instruments and heat
losses": Mary Yugo: Rich Murray 2011.10.29

er, I'm still a pragmatic skeptic re 470 KW Rossi claim...  Rich Murray

"- no blank run without hydrogen to test the instruments and heat losses"

Other things to investigate:

whether only a small amount of water is vaporized

whether still hot water returns to the input of the reactor

buildup of corrosion (boiler scale) in reactor

amount of high T heat stored within the cores and shielding

amount and effectiveness of heat insulation around cores

accuracy of electric energy input measures

role of water leaks

role of electric leaks (shorts) in creating hot spots in cores

accurate recorded measures of each of all of the cores

air temperature in the metal shipping container

changes of electric power input

changes in water flow rate

possible vapor blocks, bubble masses, and separated water slugs

possible preheating of cores from known and unknown previous runs

possible inadvertent combination of many effects that somehow create
apparent excess heat anomaly

failure of thermisters to give accurate measures of temperature
(water, steam, water-steam mixtures)

higher than measured high pressure zones within the complex plumbing

many microphones to record vibrations and sounds at many locations

very hot mineral-water complexes like gels that pass through the heat
exchanger without losing much heat, so the water is not smoothly mixed
and homogenous

gamma and beta sensors that monitor many cores via small straight
pipes to the outside

elements placed securely in cores that would reveal gamma and beta
emissions by easily measured transmutations, measured after extraction
from the cores, via the small straight pipes

while a little smoke is probably proof of fire, sometimes a lot of
smoke is proof of smoke


http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/10/28/energy-catalzyer-extraordinary-scams-require-extraordinary-claims/#comments

maryyugo says:

October 28, 2011 at 21:53

I think Rossi, so far, is a “jolly good show”. Thirteen experiments
reported, most open to selected scientists and reporters, and so far,
absolutely nothing conclusive either way! That is quite an
accomplishment.

The latest weirdness is a totally unnecessary increase in both
electrical input and supposed power output to, supposedly, as of a few
hours ago, 470 kW. Still:

- no proper calibration of instruments
- no blank run without hydrogen to test the instruments and heat losses
- no independent testing done entirely apart from Rossi and his colleagues
- no run long enough to exclude all possible sources of stored and
externally supplied energy

So thus far, nobody know whether or not Rossi has a technology or just
some bizarre combination of showmanship and sleight of hand of some
sort. And of course, a perfectly excellent and determinative test
could have been done with a 10 kW or even a 1 kW machine had it run
long enough and had the test been independent of Rossi and his
associates. The megawatt power level of the current test only adds to
difficulties in measurement and calibration and provides further
opportunities for Rossi to mislead and bamboozle the observers. After
all, you can hide almost anything in a shipping container-sized
device.

And then, the experiment only ran a few hours -- as usual with Rossi.
Here we have a nuclear powered device and it can only run a few hours?
Or is it so important for everyone to rush home, get some sleep, have
dinner, WHAT? What could be more important than a very long test?

I am shocked that all the reporters and scientists who have seen
Rossi’s demos so far, except Mr. Krivit, have not asked a single
difficult or critical question of Rossi. It’s unconscionable and
incompetent.

The other current mystery is the identity of Rossi’s client. If it’s a
large and famous company or government lab and it approves the test,
that would be encouraging. If it’s not or if it’s an organization
related to Rossi, then anything it says is suspect.

What fun!

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