Dear Bob Lancaster,
For some reason, The Friam Server has lost the ability to pass email to my Email Program, so I am copying your message in below. Also, I am having my problem of endless lines, again. So, if the message is unintelligible, please get back to me. "Hi Nick. I have to say that the New Realism's definition of consciousness appears to me to be nonsense. Few psychologists and/or philosophers in recent times have adopted the radical idealism of Bishop Berkeley, although it is, of course, not susceptible of disproof, and Dr. Johnson's supposed refutation demonstrates nothing at all. But in fact, the peculiar example of the searchlight and its surroundings comes much closer to validating this idealism than to supporting any variety of realism, since the objects revealed by the searchlight would not have been revealed except for the searchlight, and hence may be argued to exist in their peculiar configuration only because of the searchlight. Without belaboring this point, consciousness is essentially a condition of awareness. To suggest that this awareness is ontologically contained in that of which one is aware implies that the awareness would still be there even if the conscious being (the awarerer??) were gone. It is questionable if consciousness even requires an awareness of any specific existent outside the conscious being. Some meditative states cast doubt on such a necessity." Thanks for this interesting and throughtful comment. Derivatives of the New Realism have proven too useful for it to be simply to non- sense. So, I must have failed to explain it well. In idealism, I gather, since everything around is our creation, it disappears when we cease to have awareness of it. In realism, it is there whether or not we are aware of it. Clearly the searchling metaphor accomplishes that, since the things picked out by the search light are there whether the light is turned on them. What is not there when the searchlike pans away from X is the relation, searchlight illuminates X. That relation is consciousness. The analogue of to the searchlight in the metaphor is not some mysterious beams of the mind but the patterning in my behavior that highlights some features of the environment and not others. Since you can see that relation, you can be conscious of my consciousness, i.e., patterns in your behavior can highlilght the relation between my behavior and features of the enviornment that constitute consciousness, in this system of thought. By the way, the new realism is a form of materialism, since materialism consists of the proposition that everthing real consists of matter and its relations and consciousness, on the above account, is a relation between material things. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Professor of Psychology and Ethology Clark University [hidden email] http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/ [hidden email] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/friam_redfish.com/attachments/20050113/d002240a/attachment.htm |
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