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life, music, dance

gepr
Maybe this will be interesting, Gil:

Alan Watts & David Lindberg - Why Your Life Is Not A Journey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHnIJeE3LAI

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Re: life, music, dance

Marcus G. Daniels

Which I am sorry to say fires-off this neuron in my brain.

 

On 7/11/18, 11:25 AM, "uǝlƃ " <[hidden email]> wrote:

 

    Maybe this will be interesting, Gil:

   

    Alan Watts & David Lindberg - Why Your Life Is Not A Journey

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHnIJeE3LAI

   

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Which is quite on topic for the belief/doubt thread, too! What we *want* is distinct from what is *good* for us ... sometimes even disjoint: want ∩ good = ∅

To quote Tool: "Why can't we drink forever?"  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hglVqACd1C8

On 07/11/2018 10:46 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> Which I am sorry to say fires-off this neuron <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndkSzDT0rhY> in my brain.


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Marcus G. Daniels
Universal quantification does not hold here; what's good for me is different than what's good for the world.
There are those that deny it while doing everything they can to reinforce the underlying inequality.  Immigration policy is one dramatic example.
It goes by another name, bad faith.

Marcus

On 7/11/18, 12:06 PM, "Friam on behalf of uǝlƃ ☣" <[hidden email] on behalf of [hidden email]> wrote:

    Which is quite on topic for the belief/doubt thread, too! What we *want* is distinct from what is *good* for us ... sometimes even disjoint: want ∩ good = ∅
   
    To quote Tool: "Why can't we drink forever?"  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hglVqACd1C8
   
    On 07/11/2018 10:46 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
    > Which I am sorry to say fires-off this neuron <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndkSzDT0rhY> in my brain.
   
   
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Ha!  Nice rhetorical jitsu, there.  My claim was stronger.  Money is bad for you, not merely the generic "Money is bad for one."  But money is bad for each and every individual organism on the planet.  Money is a lot like alcohol.  Sure, it makes you feel good in some short-sighted, temporary way.  And, to be sure, when you're committed to living in an economy that's largely capitalist, money is a kind of power that ensures your basic needs are met, at least *some* money.  But, like alcohol, a little money (in capitalist economies) is good for you.  But too much money is decidedly bad for you.

Of course, wealthy people will disagree with me ... not much differently than the alcoholics at the local pub disagree with me.

The point being, even if Ms. Phair is right that everyone, when pressed, includes "getting paid" as part of what they want, it doesn't mean her *implication* is sound -- that "getting paid" is a good thing.

On 07/11/2018 11:32 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> Universal quantification does not hold here; what's good for me is different than what's good for the world.
> There are those that deny it while doing everything they can to reinforce the underlying inequality.  Immigration policy is one dramatic example.
> It goes by another name, bad faith.

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Glen writes:

< The point being, even if Ms. Phair is right that everyone, when pressed, includes "getting paid" as part of what they want, it doesn't mean her *implication* is sound -- that "getting paid" is a good thing. >

With "It looks like shit and it must be America" I think that's not what she is trying to get across.   Just don't doubt the consequences when one goes against the current.  

Marcus

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