Yes, Russ4, please give a sense of how things are from your point of view. Australia is one of the places that we think of going when things get really, REALLY, R E A L L Y bad here.
Nick Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University [hidden email] https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -----Original Message----- From: Friam <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of u?l? ? Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 9:29 AM To: FriAM <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Comcast blows! who else does legit internet in town. Are you in AU now? Anywhere near any fire? On 1/9/20 1:03 AM, Russell Standish wrote: > On Wed, Jan 08, 2020 at 07:16:23PM +0000, Marcus Daniels wrote: >> Just tested my AT&T fiber: 937 Mbps upload. Different town than you, >> probably. I had Comcast in Santa Fe. >> > > Wow - so envious. We get about 45 Mbps down, about 20 up on a good day > on Malcolm Turnbull's NBN, and even that's a marked improvement on > what we had only 2 months ago - about 3Mbps down, 300Kbps up. > > -- ☣ uǝlƃ ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
Thanks Carl eta all! On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 10:10 AM <[hidden email]> wrote: Yes, Russ4, please give a sense of how things are from your point of view. Australia is one of the places that we think of going when things get really, REALLY, R E A L L Y bad here. ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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> Yes, Russ4, please give a sense of how things are from your point of view. Australia is one of the places that we think of going when things get really, REALLY, R E A L L Y bad here. > > Nick > Sort of like Nevil Shute's "On the Beach" I suppose. BTW my grandfather actually knew him (by his real name Nevil Norway). Actually looking up Nevil's wikipedia entry, they probably were nearly neighbours. My grandfather lived just outside Pearcedale, and Nevil's last years were spent at Langwarrin, the next district to the North. They probably knew each other through the farming community, and both being ex-Poms. Back to the bushfires - these are like nothing anyone here has experienced before. Whilst we've had bad fires before, they've all been limited in both time and space. Bad for the people affected of course, but generally forgotten about by the general population within weeks. This is different. I would hazard a guess that more than 50% of the population is affected, either directly or indirectly by poor air quality. It has become a way of life to check the air quality app before venturing outside, whether to go to work, shopping or exercise. The smoke has even made its way across the Tasman and affected some New Zealand cities. The only thing comparable I think would be the 1997 Kalimantan fires in SE Asia. Of course this was predicted as a consequence of climate change, that we'd have increased drought and fires. And of course, our elected buffoons are cut from the same cloth as the ones you have in the US. Ten years ago, Australia had one of the first carbon taxes in the world. Not really significant economically, and unlikely to have much effect on fossil fuel use, but at least symbolically useful. That was torn up by the conservative government elected on a platform of "there is no climate change, burn baby burn". We've had a decade of head-in-the-sand politics, with the energy industry screaming for some policy certainty with respect to roll out of renewables and the like. Instead, we get the government pleading with coal fired power station operators to keep such stations open when the operators decided to end-of-life them. It's madness. And when given the clear choice between explicit policies to change the energy infrastructure, not open new coal mines and some other (fairly mild ISTM) tinkering around the edges of the tax system, and on the other side "we have no policies, but watch out for Bill shock" (yes the opposition leader was called Bill), people chose the "we have no policies" government. Elections these days (perhaps always were) simply a popularity contest, not a rational decision. What is really disgusting is that once back in power, the PM actively refused to meet with the fire chiefs back in April, who were warning him of a bad upcoming bushfire season. Well I guess the ostrich got his bum bitten by a lion. The silver lining in all of this is that these fires affected so much of the population, that that should fortify the PM to tell his rabid right wing to put a sock in it, and proceed to develop policies for how to deal with climate change. IMHO, the boat sailed 30 years ago for actually preventing climate change - the best we can do is mitigate or slow it down, and secondly adapt. Anyway - my opinion, but one that I suspect is currently quite widely shared. Cheers -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders [hidden email] http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
Thanks all (is back to comcast still blows) So am I reading right that basically the issue is comcast has a lot physical infra and it's being a PitA to get better QOA in NM in general, much less at least 100 up and down? And that the choices are pretty limited at the moment? On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 2:56 PM Russell Standish <[hidden email]> wrote: On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 10:10:24AM -0700, [hidden email] wrote: ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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Hi, Russ, Thanks for that report. What is it with the RabidRightWing pandemic?!! I suppose I have been ill-educated in some important way, but nothing in my 70 year intellectual history has prepared me to understand how fascist ideology could once again spread ... like wildfire ... across the world. Do we need to deploy fire suppression analogies ... ideological fire breaks, forest floor clean up, forest thinning, limited burns. I hate to think of it. Or, as one FRIAM member proposes, should we just let it burn. We are having at wettish year, here in Santa Fe, so far. But as you see, the curve is starting to bend over, and I wouldn’t be surprised if we fell short again. Nick Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -----Original Message----- On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 10:10:24AM -0700, [hidden email] wrote: > Yes, Russ4, please give a sense of how things are from your point of view. Australia is one of the places that we think of going when things get really, REALLY, R E A L L Y bad here. > > Nick > Sort of like Nevil Shute's "On the Beach" I suppose. BTW my grandfather actually knew him (by his real name Nevil Norway). Actually looking up Nevil's wikipedia entry, they probably were nearly neighbours. My grandfather lived just outside Pearcedale, and Nevil's last years were spent at Langwarrin, the next district to the North. They probably knew each other through the farming community, and both being ex-Poms. Back to the bushfires - these are like nothing anyone here has experienced before. Whilst we've had bad fires before, they've all been limited in both time and space. Bad for the people affected of course, but generally forgotten about by the general population within weeks. This is different. I would hazard a guess that more than 50% of the population is affected, either directly or indirectly by poor air quality. It has become a way of life to check the air quality app before venturing outside, whether to go to work, shopping or exercise. The smoke has even made its way across the Tasman and affected some New Zealand cities. The only thing comparable I think would be the 1997 Kalimantan fires in SE Asia. Of course this was predicted as a consequence of climate change, that we'd have increased drought and fires. And of course, our elected buffoons are cut from the same cloth as the ones you have in the US. Ten years ago, Australia had one of the first carbon taxes in the world. Not really significant economically, and unlikely to have much effect on fossil fuel use, but at least symbolically useful. That was torn up by the conservative government elected on a platform of "there is no climate change, burn baby burn". We've had a decade of head-in-the-sand politics, with the energy industry screaming for some policy certainty with respect to roll out of renewables and the like. Instead, we get the government pleading with coal fired power station operators to keep such stations open when the operators decided to end-of-life them. It's madness. And when given the clear choice between explicit policies to change the energy infrastructure, not open new coal mines and some other (fairly mild ISTM) tinkering around the edges of the tax system, and on the other side "we have no policies, but watch out for Bill shock" (yes the opposition leader was called Bill), people chose the "we have no policies" government. Elections these days (perhaps always were) simply a popularity contest, not a rational decision. What is really disgusting is that once back in power, the PM actively refused to meet with the fire chiefs back in April, who were warning him of a bad upcoming bushfire season. Well I guess the ostrich got his bum bitten by a lion. The silver lining in all of this is that these fires affected so much of the population, that that should fortify the PM to tell his rabid right wing to put a sock in it, and proceed to develop policies for how to deal with climate change. IMHO, the boat sailed 30 years ago for actually preventing climate change - the best we can do is mitigate or slow it down, and secondly adapt. Anyway - my opinion, but one that I suspect is currently quite widely shared. Cheers -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders [hidden email] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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