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Hi this is gillian densmore,
I've apparently been hired by someone working for central christian college to test out western union- but how do I know if it's legit? The college sent me a large check a big portion of wich is to be wired to someone else. There isn't a contract though, leaving me feeling a bit uneasy. is this par for course for craigs list? Also when asked if it was ok to double check his background he didn't respond very profesionaly asking if i'm trying to insult him. Wouldn't it be understandable to want to do so in this day and age of scams? ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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Gillian,
I would start by calling the Bursar at Central Christian College. That person should be straightforward, down-to-earth, and should have an explanation for this odd procedure. It doesn't sound right to me, I have to say. What does "test out Western Union" mean? Let us know how it comes out. Nick -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gillian Densmore Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:07 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [FRIAM] craigs list q Hi this is gillian densmore, I've apparently been hired by someone working for central christian college to test out western union- but how do I know if it's legit? The college sent me a large check a big portion of wich is to be wired to someone else. There isn't a contract though, leaving me feeling a bit uneasy. is this par for course for craigs list? Also when asked if it was ok to double check his background he didn't respond very profesionaly asking if i'm trying to insult him. Wouldn't it be understandable to want to do so in this day and age of scams? ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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Be very, very wary of these things, as they are almost assuredly
scams. I'm not sure if my understanding of it is correct, but it is a way of laundering money, for instance created by selling someone somthing that doesn't exist. When the original purchaser calls foul, and asks for the money back from er credit card provider, you will be left stumping up the refund, whilst the perpertrator is laughing all the way to the bank (or has a nice wad of cash stuffed under the matress) somewhere in Backofbeyondistan. Some people take intellectual delight in trying to figure out the scam's angle. But you've still got to be careful - these people are criminals, and probably very intelligent ones at that. Cheers On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 03:30:49PM -0600, Gillian Densmore wrote: > well heres the story in so far as I understand it: > I found a help wanted on craigs list posted as customer service. > The guy got back to me saying I'd be a "conducting agent". To evaluate > money services and or wal greens and wal mart.and I'd get paid 200 > dollars for doing so. > A week ago he said he'd be sending me a package wich made me > suspicous. Then he said he sent a check 200 of wich is mine the rest > is some other persons.(minus wester union fees) he'd like me to report > back on the experience. When I asked what type of credentials he has > so that I know that it's above bord he responded by saying: "are you > trying to insult me?" also when I said I couldn't do anything between > 1 and 2 because I have a regular apointment at that time at 140 he > sent me a few impatiant texts. Apparently he also wants it all handled > in cash to. Sufficed to say that's what prompted me to ask what kind > of assurances he has that this is legit. > > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Nicholas Thompson > <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Gillian, > > > > I would start by calling the Bursar at Central Christian College. That > > person should be straightforward, down-to-earth, and should have an > > explanation for this odd procedure. It doesn't sound right to me, I have to > > say. > > > > What does "test out Western Union" mean? > > > > Let us know how it comes out. > > > > Nick > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf > > Of Gillian Densmore > > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:07 PM > > To: [hidden email] > > Subject: [FRIAM] craigs list q > > > > Hi this is gillian densmore, > > I've apparently been hired by someone working for central christian college > > to test out western union- but how do I know if it's legit? The college sent > > me a large check a big portion of wich is to be wired to someone else. There > > isn't a contract though, leaving me feeling a bit uneasy. is this par for > > course for craigs list? Also when asked if it was ok to double check his > > background he didn't respond very profesionaly asking if i'm trying to > > insult him. Wouldn't it be understandable to want to do so in this day and > > age of scams? > > > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, > > unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > > > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics [hidden email] University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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Here's some good info on these type of scams --> http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams
-Ted
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Russell Standish <[hidden email]> wrote: Be very, very wary of these things, as they are almost assuredly -- Ted Carmichael, Ph.D. Complex Systems Institute Department of Software and Information Systems College of Computing and Informatics 310-A Woodward Hall UNC Charlotte ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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Good call. I called up Central Christian College.
This person (a bob pemo with a gmail adress) isn't on staff! Further naling it as a scam in so far as the Bursars office was conerned they'd have used a university email adress and not have taken it as an afront when wanting assurance it's legit. They thanked me for reporting and want me to keep the check around for possible criminal investigation purposes, as well as to keep an eye out on my cell phone in case they have any questions. On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Nicholas Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote: > Gillian, > > I would start by calling the Bursar at Central Christian College. That > person should be straightforward, down-to-earth, and should have an > explanation for this odd procedure. It doesn't sound right to me, I have to > say. > > What does "test out Western Union" mean? > > Let us know how it comes out. > > Nick > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf > Of Gillian Densmore > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:07 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [FRIAM] craigs list q > > Hi this is gillian densmore, > I've apparently been hired by someone working for central christian college > to test out western union- but how do I know if it's legit? The college sent > me a large check a big portion of wich is to be wired to someone else. There > isn't a contract though, leaving me feeling a bit uneasy. is this par for > course for craigs list? Also when asked if it was ok to double check his > background he didn't respond very profesionaly asking if i'm trying to > insult him. Wouldn't it be understandable to want to do so in this day and > age of scams? > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, > unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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Gillian:
If I read your original email correctly.. you are in receipt of a check, suppose to deposit it and then wire a large portion of it to another account? Let me guess....you are suppose to deposit it in **your** bank account ? That's the scam the money is wired out of your account before the check clears (it won't clear, it will bounce) and the bank will come hunting for its money from YOU. Hopefully you have the check, envelope, and any contact info. Turn these over to the police or maybe the US Postal Service - if the check came in the US Mail. Sorry if this is a repeat of someone else's advice but you want to be careful of these scams. Number One Question to ask: "Why do "they" need ME to test [company name] using money? They can hire plenty of temporary help and set the workers up in their own offices to conduct the tests. (or hire a testing firm)" Also just for laughs - try www.whois.net for the email address to see where it *seems* to be originating. Stephen Thompson Investment Officer Securian Financial Group On 5/18/2011 6:16 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote: > Good call. I called up Central Christian College. > This person (a bob pemo with a gmail adress) isn't on staff! > Further naling it as a scam in so far as the Bursars office was > conerned they'd have used a university email adress and not have taken > it as an afront when wanting assurance it's legit. > They thanked me for reporting and want me to keep the check around for > possible criminal investigation purposes, as well as to keep an eye > out on my cell phone in case they have any questions. > > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Nicholas Thompson > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Gillian, >> >> I would start by calling the Bursar at Central Christian College. That >> person should be straightforward, down-to-earth, and should have an >> explanation for this odd procedure. It doesn't sound right to me, I have to >> say. >> >> What does "test out Western Union" mean? >> >> Let us know how it comes out. >> >> Nick >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf >> Of Gillian Densmore >> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:07 PM >> To: [hidden email] >> Subject: [FRIAM] craigs list q >> >> Hi this is gillian densmore, >> I've apparently been hired by someone working for central christian college >> to test out western union- but how do I know if it's legit? The college sent >> me a large check a big portion of wich is to be wired to someone else. There >> isn't a contract though, leaving me feeling a bit uneasy. is this par for >> course for craigs list? Also when asked if it was ok to double check his >> background he didn't respond very profesionaly asking if i'm trying to >> insult him. Wouldn't it be understandable to want to do so in this day and >> age of scams? >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, >> unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >> >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >> > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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Yeah now the scammer is sending herassing text messages. I don't know
how to block him or I would. On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Stephen Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote: > Gillian: > > If I read your original email correctly.. you are in receipt > of a check, suppose to deposit it and then wire a large portion of > it to another account? > > Let me guess....you are suppose to deposit it in **your** bank account ? > > That's the scam the money is wired out of your account before the check > clears (it won't clear, it will bounce) and the bank will come hunting for > its > money from YOU. > > Hopefully you have the check, envelope, and any contact info. Turn these > over to the police or maybe the US Postal Service - if the check came > in the US Mail. > > Sorry if this is a repeat of someone else's advice but you want to be > careful > of these scams. > > Number One Question to ask: "Why do "they" need ME to test [company name] > using money? They can hire plenty of temporary help and set the workers up > in > their own offices to conduct the tests. (or hire a testing firm)" > > Also just for laughs - try www.whois.net for the email address to see > where > it *seems* to be originating. > > Stephen Thompson > Investment Officer > Securian Financial Group > > > > > On 5/18/2011 6:16 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote: >> >> Good call. I called up Central Christian College. >> This person (a bob pemo with a gmail adress) isn't on staff! >> Further naling it as a scam in so far as the Bursars office was >> conerned they'd have used a university email adress and not have taken >> it as an afront when wanting assurance it's legit. >> They thanked me for reporting and want me to keep the check around for >> possible criminal investigation purposes, as well as to keep an eye >> out on my cell phone in case they have any questions. >> >> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Nicholas Thompson >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> Gillian, >>> >>> I would start by calling the Bursar at Central Christian College. That >>> person should be straightforward, down-to-earth, and should have an >>> explanation for this odd procedure. It doesn't sound right to me, I have >>> to >>> say. >>> >>> What does "test out Western Union" mean? >>> >>> Let us know how it comes out. >>> >>> Nick >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Gillian Densmore >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:07 PM >>> To: [hidden email] >>> Subject: [FRIAM] craigs list q >>> >>> Hi this is gillian densmore, >>> I've apparently been hired by someone working for central christian >>> college >>> to test out western union- but how do I know if it's legit? The college >>> sent >>> me a large check a big portion of wich is to be wired to someone else. >>> There >>> isn't a contract though, leaving me feeling a bit uneasy. is this par for >>> course for craigs list? Also when asked if it was ok to double check his >>> background he didn't respond very profesionaly asking if i'm trying to >>> insult him. Wouldn't it be understandable to want to do so in this day >>> and >>> age of scams? >>> >>> ============================================================ >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, >>> unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >>> >>> >>> ============================================================ >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >>> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >>> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >> > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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Gillian:
Is there a local crime unit that would follow up on this? If so, you could forward the email to them. Steph T On 5/20/2011 6:53 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote: > Yeah now the scammer is sending herassing text messages. I don't know > how to block him or I would. > > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Stephen Thompson > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Gillian: >> >> If I read your original email correctly.. you are in receipt >> of a check, suppose to deposit it and then wire a large portion of >> it to another account? >> >> Let me guess....you are suppose to deposit it in **your** bank account ? >> >> That's the scam the money is wired out of your account before the check >> clears (it won't clear, it will bounce) and the bank will come hunting for >> its >> money from YOU. >> >> Hopefully you have the check, envelope, and any contact info. Turn these >> over to the police or maybe the US Postal Service - if the check came >> in the US Mail. >> >> Sorry if this is a repeat of someone else's advice but you want to be >> careful >> of these scams. >> >> Number One Question to ask: "Why do "they" need ME to test [company name] >> using money? They can hire plenty of temporary help and set the workers up >> in >> their own offices to conduct the tests. (or hire a testing firm)" >> >> Also just for laughs - try www.whois.net for the email address to see >> where >> it *seems* to be originating. >> >> Stephen Thompson >> Investment Officer >> Securian Financial Group >> >> >> >> >> On 5/18/2011 6:16 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote: >>> Good call. I called up Central Christian College. >>> This person (a bob pemo with a gmail adress) isn't on staff! >>> Further naling it as a scam in so far as the Bursars office was >>> conerned they'd have used a university email adress and not have taken >>> it as an afront when wanting assurance it's legit. >>> They thanked me for reporting and want me to keep the check around for >>> possible criminal investigation purposes, as well as to keep an eye >>> out on my cell phone in case they have any questions. >>> >>> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Nicholas Thompson >>> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> Gillian, >>>> >>>> I would start by calling the Bursar at Central Christian College. That >>>> person should be straightforward, down-to-earth, and should have an >>>> explanation for this odd procedure. It doesn't sound right to me, I have >>>> to >>>> say. >>>> >>>> What does "test out Western Union" mean? >>>> >>>> Let us know how it comes out. >>>> >>>> Nick >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of Gillian Densmore >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:07 PM >>>> To: [hidden email] >>>> Subject: [FRIAM] craigs list q >>>> >>>> Hi this is gillian densmore, >>>> I've apparently been hired by someone working for central christian >>>> college >>>> to test out western union- but how do I know if it's legit? The college >>>> sent >>>> me a large check a big portion of wich is to be wired to someone else. >>>> There >>>> isn't a contract though, leaving me feeling a bit uneasy. is this par for >>>> course for craigs list? Also when asked if it was ok to double check his >>>> background he didn't respond very profesionaly asking if i'm trying to >>>> insult him. Wouldn't it be understandable to want to do so in this day >>>> and >>>> age of scams? >>>> >>>> ============================================================ >>>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, >>>> unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >>>> >>>> >>>> ============================================================ >>>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >>>> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >>>> >>> ============================================================ >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >>> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >>> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >> > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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Hi
1) Simply ignore them 2) Do not communicate with these people in any way You should stop receiving emails / texts after about 10 days Sarbajit (a reformed cyber criminal)
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 5:23 AM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote: Yeah now the scammer is sending herassing text messages. I don't know ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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Really? A reformed cyber criminal? Say more! N PS, I have to say, as a psychologist, I am fascinated by the m.o. Does it really work to get nasty with people one is trying to seduce? From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy Hi On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 5:23 AM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote: Yeah now the scammer is sending herassing text messages. I don't know
> Gillian: > > If I read your original email correctly.. you are in receipt > of a check, suppose to deposit it and then wire a large portion of > it to another account? > > Let me guess....you are suppose to deposit it in **your** bank account ? > > That's the scam the money is wired out of your account before the check > clears (it won't clear, it will bounce) and the bank will come hunting for > its > money from YOU. > > Hopefully you have the check, envelope, and any contact info. Turn these > over to the police or maybe the US Postal Service - if the check came > in the US Mail. > > Sorry if this is a repeat of someone else's advice but you want to be > careful > of these scams. > > Number One Question to ask: "Why do "they" need ME to test [company name] > using money? They can hire plenty of temporary help and set the workers up > in > their own offices to conduct the tests. (or hire a testing firm)" > > Also just for laughs - try www.whois.net for the email address to see > where > it *seems* to be originating. > > Stephen Thompson > Investment Officer > Securian Financial Group > > > > > On 5/18/2011 6:16 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote: >> >> Good call. I called up Central Christian College. >> This person (a bob pemo with a gmail adress) isn't on staff! >> Further naling it as a scam in so far as the Bursars office was >> conerned they'd have used a university email adress and not have taken >> it as an afront when wanting assurance it's legit. >> They thanked me for reporting and want me to keep the check around for >> possible criminal investigation purposes, as well as to keep an eye >> out on my cell phone in case they have any questions. >> >> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Nicholas Thompson >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> Gillian, >>> >>> I would start by calling the Bursar at Central Christian College. That >>> person should be straightforward, down-to-earth, and should have an >>> explanation for this odd procedure. It doesn't sound right to me, I have >>> to >>> say. >>> >>> What does "test out Western Union" mean? >>> >>> Let us know how it comes out. >>> >>> Nick >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Gillian Densmore >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:07 PM >>> To: [hidden email] >>> Subject: [FRIAM] craigs list q >>> >>> Hi this is gillian densmore, >>> I've apparently been hired by someone working for central christian >>> college >>> to test out western union- but how do I know if it's legit? The college >>> sent >>> me a large check a big portion of wich is to be wired to someone else. >>> There >>> isn't a contract though, leaving me feeling a bit uneasy. is this par for >>> course for craigs list? Also when asked if it was ok to double check his >>> background he didn't respond very profesionaly asking if i'm trying to >>> insult him. Wouldn't it be understandable to want to do so in this day >>> and >>> age of scams? >>> >>> ============================================================ >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, >>> unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >>> >>> >>> ============================================================ >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >>> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >>> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >> > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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Gill,
I don't know about your mail handler, but in mine you can write a rule that sends all messages from a particular address directly to your deleted messages folder. Pow! Nick -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gillian Densmore Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 5:54 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Financial Scam Yeah now the scammer is sending herassing text messages. I don't know how to block him or I would. On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Stephen Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote: > Gillian: > > If I read your original email correctly.. you are in receipt of a > check, suppose to deposit it and then wire a large portion of it to > another account? > > Let me guess....you are suppose to deposit it in **your** bank account ? > > That's the scam the money is wired out of your account before the > check clears (it won't clear, it will bounce) and the bank will come > hunting for its money from YOU. > > Hopefully you have the check, envelope, and any contact info. Turn > these over to the police or maybe the US Postal Service - if the check > came in the US Mail. > > Sorry if this is a repeat of someone else's advice but you want to be > careful of these scams. > > Number One Question to ask: "Why do "they" need ME to test [company > name] using money? They can hire plenty of temporary help and set the > workers up in their own offices to conduct the tests. (or hire a > testing firm)" > > Also just for laughs - try www.whois.net for the email address > to see where it *seems* to be originating. > > Stephen Thompson > Investment Officer > Securian Financial Group > > > > > On 5/18/2011 6:16 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote: >> >> Good call. I called up Central Christian College. >> This person (a bob pemo with a gmail adress) isn't on staff! >> Further naling it as a scam in so far as the Bursars office was >> conerned they'd have used a university email adress and not have >> taken it as an afront when wanting assurance it's legit. >> They thanked me for reporting and want me to keep the check around >> for possible criminal investigation purposes, as well as to keep an >> eye out on my cell phone in case they have any questions. >> >> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Nicholas Thompson >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> Gillian, >>> >>> I would start by calling the Bursar at Central Christian College. >>> That person should be straightforward, down-to-earth, and should >>> have an explanation for this odd procedure. It doesn't sound right >>> to me, I have to say. >>> >>> What does "test out Western Union" mean? >>> >>> Let us know how it comes out. >>> >>> Nick >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] >>> On Behalf Of Gillian Densmore >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:07 PM >>> To: [hidden email] >>> Subject: [FRIAM] craigs list q >>> >>> Hi this is gillian densmore, >>> I've apparently been hired by someone working for central christian >>> college to test out western union- but how do I know if it's legit? >>> The college sent me a large check a big portion of wich is to be >>> wired to someone else. >>> There >>> isn't a contract though, leaving me feeling a bit uneasy. is this >>> par for course for craigs list? Also when asked if it was ok to >>> double check his background he didn't respond very profesionaly >>> asking if i'm trying to insult him. Wouldn't it be understandable to >>> want to do so in this day and age of scams? >>> >>> ============================================================ >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at >>> cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at >>> http://www.friam.org >>> >>> >>> ============================================================ >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at >>> cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at >>> http://www.friam.org >>> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at >> cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at >> http://www.friam.org >> > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe > at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at > http://www.friam.org > ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org |
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Hi Nick
I'm reformed in the sense that I now operate within the side of law, order and my country's way of life. In the early 1980's I (specifically my acronym) was (briefly) deemed to be a cyber criminal by your country's federal investigative agencies till it was clarified that in my country my research activities were not illegal, were government sponsored, and the massive business losses suffered by the affected US MNC.as a consequence of the viral release of my research report "into the wild" was entirely due to the defects in the MNC's product (a major personal computer operating system) which contained exploit points to spy on my country's citizens and governance processes As to the second point of your email. 1) These email scamsters are high volume based percentage players specifically looking for the end tails of the human intelligence. "normal" distribution curve. ie. a) the extremely stupid and rich (yes such people exist) or b) the extremely (over) clever middle class victim. Once a victim responds to an email, they have about 8 to 10 different cut and paste replies (randomly applied) designed to elicit diferenr responses. Remember its all high volume and statistically based without any real consideration of the victims reply which are just superfically incorporated into the scamsters reply back.. 2) Every aspect of this scam game has been broken down and sub-contracted throughout the globe with a high degree of automation and by using very mediocre people . So whereas the victims believe that they are the target of smalltime scamsters who are trying to "hustle" or "sting" THEM using a "sniper" approach, it is really large criminal networks / gangs using "shotgun" approaches. 3) The nasty approach ??. Imagine if a scamster targeted mailing lists of "highly intelligent" people who could "see through" the scam and were "angrily provoked" into visiting a webpage (through a link / whois craftily inserted to be discovered) where spyware / malware is inserted on the target's PC to steall his Credit card, passwords and other financial data etc. Sarbajit On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Nicholas Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Sarbajit, It is a dark world, you describe. But it is a “complex” one, and we ought to know more about it. One of the features of the situation that is puzzling to an evolutionist is how little it has evolved since the time I got my first Nigerian millionaire letter. There doesn’t seem to be much of an “arms race” operating here. Or perhaps there is and I just don’t know. [shudder]. Thanks for writing. Nick From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy Hi Nick On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Nicholas Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote: Really? A reformed cyber criminal? Say more! N PS, I have to say, as a psychologist, I am fascinated by the m.o. Does it really work to get nasty with people one is trying to seduce? From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Sarbajit Roy Hi On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 5:23 AM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote: Yeah now the scammer is sending herassing text messages. I don't know
> Gillian: > > If I read your original email correctly.. you are in receipt > of a check, suppose to deposit it and then wire a large portion of > it to another account? > > Let me guess....you are suppose to deposit it in **your** bank account ? > > That's the scam the money is wired out of your account before the check > clears (it won't clear, it will bounce) and the bank will come hunting for > its > money from YOU. > > Hopefully you have the check, envelope, and any contact info. Turn these > over to the police or maybe the US Postal Service - if the check came > in the US Mail. > > Sorry if this is a repeat of someone else's advice but you want to be > careful > of these scams. > > Number One Question to ask: "Why do "they" need ME to test [company name] > using money? They can hire plenty of temporary help and set the workers up > in > their own offices to conduct the tests. (or hire a testing firm)" > > Also just for laughs - try www.whois.net for the email address to see > where > it *seems* to be originating. > > Stephen Thompson > Investment Officer > Securian Financial Group > > > > > On 5/18/2011 6:16 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote: >> >> Good call. I called up Central Christian College. >> This person (a bob pemo with a gmail adress) isn't on staff! >> Further naling it as a scam in so far as the Bursars office was >> conerned they'd have used a university email adress and not have taken >> it as an afront when wanting assurance it's legit. >> They thanked me for reporting and want me to keep the check around for >> possible criminal investigation purposes, as well as to keep an eye >> out on my cell phone in case they have any questions. >> >> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Nicholas Thompson >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> Gillian, >>> >>> I would start by calling the Bursar at Central Christian College. That >>> person should be straightforward, down-to-earth, and should have an >>> explanation for this odd procedure. It doesn't sound right to me, I have >>> to >>> say. >>> >>> What does "test out Western Union" mean? >>> >>> Let us know how it comes out. >>> >>> Nick >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Gillian Densmore >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:07 PM >>> To: [hidden email] >>> Subject: [FRIAM] craigs list q >>> >>> Hi this is gillian densmore, >>> I've apparently been hired by someone working for central christian >>> college >>> to test out western union- but how do I know if it's legit? The college >>> sent >>> me a large check a big portion of wich is to be wired to someone else. >>> There >>> isn't a contract though, leaving me feeling a bit uneasy. is this par for >>> course for craigs list? Also when asked if it was ok to double check his >>> background he didn't respond very profesionaly asking if i'm trying to >>> insult him. Wouldn't it be understandable to want to do so in this day >>> and >>> age of scams? >>> >>> ============================================================ >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, >>> unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >>> >>> >>> ============================================================ >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >>> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >>> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org >> > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
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