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Nick Thompson

bizarre Fire Fox behavior?

After a time, when Firefox has been running, Windows Explorer begins spawning new windows explorer processes (as indicated by the Windows Task Manager) at a frantic rate, roughly two per second. They are all a little over 2k but not exactly the same. When I close Firefox it does not stop, but if I don’t open Firefox, it does not start. It does not happen with Windows Internet Explorer. Those are the only two browsers I have.

Has anybody experienced anything like this? Eventually it uses up enormous amounts of memory on the machine and I suppose will ultimately crash it.

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Roger Critchlow-2

Re: bizarre Fire Fox behavior?

There's some kind of exploit running around that tries to freeze your browser by repeated file saves while posting a "You have been PWNED! Call 1-800-xxx-yyyy for help!" message, then they talk you out of your credit card number, and so on, and so forth. Affects several browsers, there were earlier fixes but they're broken at the moment. It sounds like your computer is too old for the exploit to work correctly.

The immediate cure is to delete the window/tab that is running the exploit, if you can identify it. When you start firefox is it loading a collection of saved tabs?

-- rec --

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 11:53 PM Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

After a time, when Firefox has been running, Windows Explorer begins spawning new windows explorer processes (as indicated by the Windows Task Manager) at a frantic rate, roughly two per second. They are all a little over 2k but not exactly the same. When I close Firefox it does not stop, but if I don’t open Firefox, it does not start. It does not happen with Windows Internet Explorer. Those are the only two browsers I have.

Has anybody experienced anything like this? Eventually it uses up enormous amounts of memory on the machine and I suppose will ultimately crash it.

N

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Gillian Densmore

Re: bizarre Fire Fox behavior?

PURELY FWIW this is where javaScript's (lack of) sandbox is a disaster. Their's a billion assholes out their that get off on this. I don't know why.

Chrome you MIGHT beable to kil the window spamming you.

lol more than happily find a urle reidrect page and send back those turd blossoms the same assholery.

FireFox does (or used to) do a decent job of sorrty waht plugins are bullshit vis not. FFQuantum is pretty good at blocking out that kind of jackass bullshit.

And yeah fiy ou don't care about the windows up just crash firefox (windows has a task manager for this) I have no idea what the equivilant for MacOS is now.

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 8:01 AM, Roger Critchlow <[hidden email]> wrote:

There's some kind of exploit running around that tries to freeze your browser by repeated file saves while posting a "You have been PWNED! Call 1-800-xxx-yyyy for help!" message, then they talk you out of your credit card number, and so on, and so forth. Affects several browsers, there were earlier fixes but they're broken at the moment. It sounds like your computer is too old for the exploit to work correctly.

The immediate cure is to delete the window/tab that is running the exploit, if you can identify it. When you start firefox is it loading a collection of saved tabs?

-- rec --

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 11:53 PM Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
After a time, when Firefox has been running, Windows Explorer begins spawning new windows explorer processes (as indicated by the Windows Task Manager) at a frantic rate, roughly two per second. They are all a little over 2k but not exactly the same. When I close Firefox it does not stop, but if I don’t open Firefox, it does not start. It does not happen with Windows Internet Explorer. Those are the only two browsers I have.

Has anybody experienced anything like this? Eventually it uses up enormous amounts of memory on the machine and I suppose will ultimately crash it.

N

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Gillian Densmore

Re: bizarre Fire Fox behavior?

In reply to this post by Roger Critchlow-2

@nick re:FireFox yeah that' sounds like all the fingerprints of a (fortunatly) horribly failed JavaScript aholery. Sadly my 3 year oold computer with even FFLegacy or Quanttum get the full terrible english or as hillarius a computer text to voice bullshit.

I'll first try killing that windows (a chrome thing) or failing that just go to windows task manager and killing the whole fucking browser--lol kind of hard for some punk bitch script kiddie to fuck with my computer if the browser aint running

I also sugest seeing if you can get a program called MalWare bites, Your browser may also be able to use a popup blocking extensions, and ghostery as well

FWIW between those I generally don't get to many douchebags trying to spam.

I sugest malwarebytes because it might help clean out what ever bullshit they tried to use.

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 8:01 AM, Roger Critchlow <[hidden email]> wrote:

There's some kind of exploit running around that tries to freeze your browser by repeated file saves while posting a "You have been PWNED! Call 1-800-xxx-yyyy for help!" message, then they talk you out of your credit card number, and so on, and so forth. Affects several browsers, there were earlier fixes but they're broken at the moment. It sounds like your computer is too old for the exploit to work correctly.

The immediate cure is to delete the window/tab that is running the exploit, if you can identify it. When you start firefox is it loading a collection of saved tabs?

-- rec --

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 11:53 PM Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
After a time, when Firefox has been running, Windows Explorer begins spawning new windows explorer processes (as indicated by the Windows Task Manager) at a frantic rate, roughly two per second. They are all a little over 2k but not exactly the same. When I close Firefox it does not stop, but if I don’t open Firefox, it does not start. It does not happen with Windows Internet Explorer. Those are the only two browsers I have.

Has anybody experienced anything like this? Eventually it uses up enormous amounts of memory on the machine and I suppose will ultimately crash it.

N

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Nick Thompson

Re: bizarre Fire Fox behavior?

In reply to this post by Roger Critchlow-2

Roger,

Thanks. I wonder …. . The problem does not happen in I.E., but it has stopped happening in FF, now as well. The problem did seem to survive two clean opens of FF, but more recently has stopped. To be clear, what was happening was multiple explorer windows being opened, but it was something in FF that seemed to be opening them. It never happened when FF was closed. This is entirely separate from the problem of firefox opening several processes and grabbing a

Gig of memory just for fun, which seems to be perhaps irremediable. Perhaps it’s time give up on Firefox.

Anyway, all is calm at the moment. I assume you are out in the gulf of Maine somewhere, where you should be, in a lovely chilly fog. Here in the MIB, when are on our sixth day over 90.

Take care,

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Roger Critchlow
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2018 10:02 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] bizarre Fire Fox behavior?

The immediate cure is to delete the window/tab that is running the exploit, if you can identify it. When you start firefox is it loading a collection of saved tabs?

-- rec --

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 11:53 PM Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

After a time, when Firefox has been running, Windows Explorer begins spawning new windows explorer processes (as indicated by the Windows Task Manager) at a frantic rate, roughly two per second. They are all a little over 2k but not exactly the same. When I close Firefox it does not stop, but if I don’t open Firefox, it does not start. It does not happen with Windows Internet Explorer. Those are the only two browsers I have.

Has anybody experienced anything like this? Eventually it uses up enormous amounts of memory on the machine and I suppose will ultimately crash it.

N

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Roger Critchlow-2

Re: bizarre Fire Fox behavior?

Sorry, Nick, I was sweltering too hard to answer. Been a rough week in Boston Harbor. And the boat goes no where until we repair the rusted through exhaust pipe on the engine. Filled our engine room with diesel exhaust last weekend.

But life is good when it cools down a bit as it has today.

We should do coffee?

-- rec --

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 11:06 AM Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Roger,

Thanks. I wonder …. . The problem does not happen in I.E., but it has stopped happening in FF, now as well. The problem did seem to survive two clean opens of FF, but more recently has stopped. To be clear, what was happening was multiple explorer windows being opened, but it was something in FF that seemed to be opening them. It never happened when FF was closed. This is entirely separate from the problem of firefox opening several processes and grabbing a
Gig of memory just for fun, which seems to be perhaps irremediable. Perhaps it’s time give up on Firefox.

Anyway, all is calm at the moment. I assume you are out in the gulf of Maine somewhere, where you should be, in a lovely chilly fog. Here in the MIB, when are on our sixth day over 90.

Take care,

N
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Roger Critchlow
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2018 10:02 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] bizarre Fire Fox behavior?

There's some kind of exploit running around that tries to freeze your browser by repeated file saves while posting a "You have been PWNED! Call 1-800-xxx-yyyy for help!" message, then they talk you out of your credit card number, and so on, and so forth. Affects several browsers, there were earlier fixes but they're broken at the moment. It sounds like your computer is too old for the exploit to work correctly.

The immediate cure is to delete the window/tab that is running the exploit, if you can identify it. When you start firefox is it loading a collection of saved tabs?

-- rec --

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 11:53 PM Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
After a time, when Firefox has been running, Windows Explorer begins spawning new windows explorer processes (as indicated by the Windows Task Manager) at a frantic rate, roughly two per second. They are all a little over 2k but not exactly the same. When I close Firefox it does not stop, but if I don’t open Firefox, it does not start. It does not happen with Windows Internet Explorer. Those are the only two browsers I have.

Has anybody experienced anything like this? Eventually it uses up enormous amounts of memory on the machine and I suppose will ultimately crash it.

N

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Roger Critchlow-2

Re: bizarre Fire Fox behavior?

Oops. Sorry for that.

-- rec --

On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 11:36 AM Roger Critchlow <[hidden email]> wrote:

Sorry, Nick, I was sweltering too hard to answer. Been a rough week in Boston Harbor. And the boat goes no where until we repair the rusted through exhaust pipe on the engine. Filled our engine room with diesel exhaust last weekend.

But life is good when it cools down a bit as it has today.

We should do coffee?

-- rec --

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 11:06 AM Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Roger,

Thanks. I wonder …. . The problem does not happen in I.E., but it has stopped happening in FF, now as well. The problem did seem to survive two clean opens of FF, but more recently has stopped. To be clear, what was happening was multiple explorer windows being opened, but it was something in FF that seemed to be opening them. It never happened when FF was closed. This is entirely separate from the problem of firefox opening several processes and grabbing a
Gig of memory just for fun, which seems to be perhaps irremediable. Perhaps it’s time give up on Firefox.

Anyway, all is calm at the moment. I assume you are out in the gulf of Maine somewhere, where you should be, in a lovely chilly fog. Here in the MIB, when are on our sixth day over 90.

Take care,

N
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Roger Critchlow
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2018 10:02 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] bizarre Fire Fox behavior?

There's some kind of exploit running around that tries to freeze your browser by repeated file saves while posting a "You have been PWNED! Call 1-800-xxx-yyyy for help!" message, then they talk you out of your credit card number, and so on, and so forth. Affects several browsers, there were earlier fixes but they're broken at the moment. It sounds like your computer is too old for the exploit to work correctly.

The immediate cure is to delete the window/tab that is running the exploit, if you can identify it. When you start firefox is it loading a collection of saved tabs?

-- rec --

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 11:53 PM Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
After a time, when Firefox has been running, Windows Explorer begins spawning new windows explorer processes (as indicated by the Windows Task Manager) at a frantic rate, roughly two per second. They are all a little over 2k but not exactly the same. When I close Firefox it does not stop, but if I don’t open Firefox, it does not start. It does not happen with Windows Internet Explorer. Those are the only two browsers I have.

Has anybody experienced anything like this? Eventually it uses up enormous amounts of memory on the machine and I suppose will ultimately crash it.

N

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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Nick Thompson

Re: bizarre Fire Fox behavior?

Hi, Roger,

I am about to experience the onslaught of relatives, so probably not until that is over, late in july.

By now you’ll be wishing for heat, right!

God what a cold front passage. And still not a quarter inch of rain.

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Roger Critchlow
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2018 11:38 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] bizarre Fire Fox behavior?

Oops. Sorry for that.

-- rec --

On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 11:36 AM Roger Critchlow <[hidden email]> wrote:

Sorry, Nick, I was sweltering too hard to answer. Been a rough week in Boston Harbor. And the boat goes no where until we repair the rusted through exhaust pipe on the engine. Filled our engine room with diesel exhaust last weekend.

But life is good when it cools down a bit as it has today.

We should do coffee?

-- rec --

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 11:06 AM Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
Roger,

Thanks. I wonder …. . The problem does not happen in I.E., but it has stopped happening in FF, now as well. The problem did seem to survive two clean opens of FF, but more recently has stopped. To be clear, what was happening was multiple explorer windows being opened, but it was something in FF that seemed to be opening them. It never happened when FF was closed. This is entirely separate from the problem of firefox opening several processes and grabbing a
Gig of memory just for fun, which seems to be perhaps irremediable. Perhaps it’s time give up on Firefox.

Anyway, all is calm at the moment. I assume you are out in the gulf of Maine somewhere, where you should be, in a lovely chilly fog. Here in the MIB, when are on our sixth day over 90.

Take care,

N
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Roger Critchlow
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2018 10:02 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] bizarre Fire Fox behavior?

There's some kind of exploit running around that tries to freeze your browser by repeated file saves while posting a "You have been PWNED! Call 1-800-xxx-yyyy for help!" message, then they talk you out of your credit card number, and so on, and so forth. Affects several browsers, there were earlier fixes but they're broken at the moment. It sounds like your computer is too old for the exploit to work correctly.

The immediate cure is to delete the window/tab that is running the exploit, if you can identify it. When you start firefox is it loading a collection of saved tabs?

-- rec --

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 11:53 PM Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
After a time, when Firefox has been running, Windows Explorer begins spawning new windows explorer processes (as indicated by the Windows Task Manager) at a frantic rate, roughly two per second. They are all a little over 2k but not exactly the same. When I close Firefox it does not stop, but if I don’t open Firefox, it does not start. It does not happen with Windows Internet Explorer. Those are the only two browsers I have.

Has anybody experienced anything like this? Eventually it uses up enormous amounts of memory on the machine and I suppose will ultimately crash it.

N

Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

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