To the local congregation: Your Mayor, being firm with NPR’s Robert Siegel. http://www.npr.org/2017/01/25/511655818/despite-trump-actions-santa-fe-mayor-vows-to-remain-a-sanctuary-city To the Diaspora, If this gets ugly, Santa Fe might need your help. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
Well, maybe Sanfa Fe and Winnipeg could become sister cities and piss off both our federal governments. Your Mayor has balls. Maybe doing the right thing takes some special kind of courage. vib From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Nick Thompson To the local congregation: Your Mayor, being firm with NPR’s Robert Siegel. To the Diaspora, If this gets ugly, Santa Fe might need your help. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove |
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Yep. He's a comer. Check all the boxes: young, handsome, Hispanic, gay, ambitious. I was at the City Council meeting last night about the Sanctuary City resolutions. "Sanctuary City" doesn't protect anyone--it's just a bandaid to make people feel better and less helpless. ICE can move in as soon as they have a name. But what DOES help protect immigrants is directly connected to the policing issue. As soon as an undocumented immigrant is arrested and booked-- there is no way to stop ICE from picking them up--their names go immediately to the data base. America is known for arresting people of color at the drop of a hat, so the fact that Javier has linked protection to how our local law enforcement behaves is really important...it goes to the systemic level of intervention. The city, like all cities in the U.S. is broke, so it's both brave and foolish to face the risk of losing federal dollars. On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Merle, Hence my suggestion that the City may need support from a wider community sometime in the near future. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Merle Lefkoff Yep. He's a comer. Check all the boxes: young, handsome, Hispanic, gay, ambitious. I was at the City Council meeting last night about the Sanctuary City resolutions. "Sanctuary City" doesn't protect anyone--it's just a bandaid to make people feel better and less helpless. ICE can move in as soon as they have a name. But what DOES help protect immigrants is directly connected to the policing issue. As soon as an undocumented immigrant is arrested and booked-- there is no way to stop ICE from picking them up--their names go immediately to the data base. America is known for arresting people of color at the drop of a hat, so the fact that Javier has linked protection to how our local law enforcement behaves is really important...it goes to the systemic level of intervention. The city, like all cities in the U.S. is broke, so it's both brave and foolish to face the risk of losing federal dollars. On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Nick, I'm not sure what you mean by a "wider community." Do you mean those who just blah blah and sit on their asses and not take action to respond to what's happening? The Council chambers were packed last night--standing room only, and hundreds of people standing for hours outside the Council watching on t.v. what was going on inside. The wider activist community were all there. On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:23 PM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:
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"Wider community support" could mean, "Are you prepared to hide people in your basement for an extended period of time?" ============================================ Tom Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA 505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h) Society of Professional Journalists Check out It's The People's Data On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:30 PM, Merle Lefkoff <[hidden email]> wrote:
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So in other words "unducmented workers" People running from Countery X to State/City Here illegally, working (mostly) for cash doing the burn out crappy jobs no sane life form should do? If Njrodic History serves they did (roughly) the same stuff, and were bad ass at it. Correction ARE bad ass at it. They were their mining making ships, clothes and what have you, one suposedly was insperation for Rosy the Riviter. Better question: Why are people acting surprised that treating people without honor sooner or later they'll say they've had enough aholery and jerkness.? oO Many people on this list were around durring one moment of that, I here they damn neer burned most, if not all of Los Angeles California down, Some of you remember a giant dick who was (justifiably...sort of) frightned of a large Slavic nation called russia. His name was McCarthy. Look how THAT turned out. I really hope people got the memo by now: a certain kind of aholery does unite entire nations...problem for the leaders is tends to be agains them. Now where's Obiwan and Senator Organa and a beeping android when we need them. In my simple mind three things will get us through this flare up of drama -Joy -Hope -Beer -And being simple. BY THE FORCE! As a (real) concrete example a club I help manage they've made it abundantly clear many MANY times. Do not make issues, and issue. For example: do you REALLY care if the dude helping correct a logo or make beer has a clay colored skin? If you don't make an issue about that kind of thing, and just enjoy the beer, food or what ever this kind of crap won't be an issue in the first place! By the Force! Yes some spunky fun people have earth toned skin, many are geeks just like most of this list, yes some of them roll R's, have lispy, accents, an american accent is probably just as strange and hard to understand to them, ,,,.... who cares!. Some folk you get along others not. Ultimatly were all on the same large rock with beutiful blue sky and shows only nature can do. Some folk you click with more than others. . It's that simple Now enjoy your day, and contimplate deep profound notions like: Is Energy theory right that we'll come back? Will the universe explode tomorrow? Where did I put my clean socks and underwhere? why do my Car keys disopear just as a robodialer calls? How many yummy flavors of beer are there? Can that OTHER Galing densmore make more typos in one email to a list of retired clever smart geeks? Well he learn how to type right? Deer god how many bad jokes can he make? UFDA! I sincerly hope everyone has a wonderful and gloriusly fun day! On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:27 PM, Tom Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
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