Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

[Gillian Densmore]

What on earth happens to some of the coffe when I make it drop style? I prepare 6-8 cups so as if someone stops by they can have a bit as well.

But then it only gives a bit over 4-5 cups.

Does some invisible dwarf drink a bit of it before it gets to the Kareff(sp)? oO

I am genuinly perplexed by this.^_^ 

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[Merle Lefkoff-2]

Gillian, all of the initial water is boiled, so some of the steam escapes from the coffeemaker, and some of the rest is in the wet grounds in the filter basket.  There may well be something else happening, but this accounts for some of it.

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

What on earth happens to some of the coffe when I make it drop style? I prepare 6-8 cups so as if someone stops by they can have a bit as well.

But then it only gives a bit over 4-5 cups.

Does some invisible dwarf drink a bit of it before it gets to the Kareff(sp)? oO

I am genuinly perplexed by this.^_^ 

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[Gillian Densmore]

Ah ok thanks😀

On Sep 19, 2017 3:50 PM, "Merle Lefkoff" <[hidden email]> wrote:

Gillian, all of the initial water is boiled, so some of the steam escapes from the coffeemaker, and some of the rest is in the wet grounds in the filter basket.  There may well be something else happening, but this accounts for some of it.

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

What on earth happens to some of the coffe when I make it drop style? I prepare 6-8 cups so as if someone stops by they can have a bit as well.

But then it only gives a bit over 4-5 cups.

Does some invisible dwarf drink a bit of it before it gets to the Kareff(sp)? oO

I am genuinly perplexed by this.^_^ 

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[Nick Thompson]

Gil,

 

An experiment: lightly wet the grounds with water before you put the basket in the coffee-maker.  Notice how much water you can “get in”.  Now, put the damp basket  in the coffee maker and make the coffee as usual.  Are you still missing some water? 

 

N

 

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Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

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From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Merle Lefkoff
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 5:50 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

 

Gillian, all of the initial water is boiled, so some of the steam escapes from the coffeemaker, and some of the rest is in the wet grounds in the filter basket.  There may well be something else happening, but this accounts for some of it.

 

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

What on earth happens to some of the coffe when I make it drop style? I prepare 6-8 cups so as if someone stops by they can have a bit as well.

But then it only gives a bit over 4-5 cups.

 

Does some invisible dwarf drink a bit of it before it gets to the Kareff(sp)? oO

 

I am genuinly perplexed by this.^_^ 

 

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[Steve Smith]

Ooops... the "reply-to" on the list reflector seems not to be the list by default, so this just went to Merle the first time!

Gil -

I don't use an automated coffee maker often, but when I do (e.g. motel or visiting a friend) I forget that the filling system is measured in 8 oz cups but my expectations are closer to a 12 ounce mugfull, so 4 cups of water in yields something closer to 2.5 mugs out and of course if I"m on the west coast, the mugs are 16 ouncers which REALLY aggravates the situation!

 - Steve

PS.  a more whimsical answer is that you can probably expect to find the extra coffee in your laundry from time to time and some mismatched socks in your coffeemaker somewhere down the line!

On 9/19/17 3:50 PM, Merle Lefkoff wrote:

Gillian, all of the initial water is boiled, so some of the steam escapes from the coffeemaker, and some of the rest is in the wet grounds in the filter basket.  There may well be something else happening, but this accounts for some of it.

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

What on earth happens to some of the coffe when I make it drop style? I prepare 6-8 cups so as if someone stops by they can have a bit as well.

But then it only gives a bit over 4-5 cups.

Does some invisible dwarf drink a bit of it before it gets to the Kareff(sp)? oO

I am genuinly perplexed by this.^_^ 

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[Gillian Densmore]

Hmmmm... well fortunatly Iike fun colorful socks... now if they show up full coffee been... 

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Steven A Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

Ooops... the "reply-to" on the list reflector seems not to be the list by default, so this just went to Merle the first time!

Gil -

I don't use an automated coffee maker often, but when I do (e.g. motel or visiting a friend) I forget that the filling system is measured in 8 oz cups but my expectations are closer to a 12 ounce mugfull, so 4 cups of water in yields something closer to 2.5 mugs out and of course if I"m on the west coast, the mugs are 16 ouncers which REALLY aggravates the situation!

 - Steve

PS.  a more whimsical answer is that you can probably expect to find the extra coffee in your laundry from time to time and some mismatched socks in your coffeemaker somewhere down the line!

On 9/19/17 3:50 PM, Merle Lefkoff wrote:

Gillian, all of the initial water is boiled, so some of the steam escapes from the coffeemaker, and some of the rest is in the wet grounds in the filter basket.  There may well be something else happening, but this accounts for some of it.

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

What on earth happens to some of the coffe when I make it drop style? I prepare 6-8 cups so as if someone stops by they can have a bit as well.

But then it only gives a bit over 4-5 cups.

Does some invisible dwarf drink a bit of it before it gets to the Kareff(sp)? oO

I am genuinly perplexed by this.^_^ 

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[Barry MacKichan]

That’s a quantum effect, right?

--Barry


On 19 Sep 2017, at 19:57, Steven A Smith wrote:

> PS.  a more whimsical answer is that you can probably expect to find
> the extra coffee in your laundry from time to time and some mismatched
> socks in your coffeemaker somewhere down the line!

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[Gillian Densmore]

(laughing) Only if it can be Quantum-Fied---so does this meen somehow coffe makers, socks, dustbunnes and hangers have weird energy string? My brain hurts considering that.

A small spirte makes the coffee, hands it to a quick dwarf that takes a sock as a prank Lord Terry Pratchet from Vallhala is probably amused

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Barry MacKichan <[hidden email]> wrote:

That’s a quantum effect, right?

--Barry


On 19 Sep 2017, at 19:57, Steven A Smith wrote:

PS.  a more whimsical answer is that you can probably expect to find the extra coffee in your laundry from time to time and some mismatched socks in your coffeemaker somewhere down the line!

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[Nick Thompson]

Ok, so, I did the experiment.

 

In a ten cup coffee maker I took a cup of water and pre soaked the grounds, taking off what dribbled through and pouring it back through until I had saturated the grounds.  The the grounds required a little short of a cup to saturate.  Then I put ten cups of water in the coffeemaker and let it rip.  I got ten cups of coffee out of it. The Densmore effect is due to the grounds.  Qed.

 

N

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gillian Densmore
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 10:22 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

 

Hmmmm... well fortunatly Iike fun colorful socks... now if they show up full coffee been... 

 

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Steven A Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

Ooops... the "reply-to" on the list reflector seems not to be the list by default, so this just went to Merle the first time!

Gil -

I don't use an automated coffee maker often, but when I do (e.g. motel or visiting a friend) I forget that the filling system is measured in 8 oz cups but my expectations are closer to a 12 ounce mugfull, so 4 cups of water in yields something closer to 2.5 mugs out and of course if I"m on the west coast, the mugs are 16 ouncers which REALLY aggravates the situation!

 - Steve

PS.  a more whimsical answer is that you can probably expect to find the extra coffee in your laundry from time to time and some mismatched socks in your coffeemaker somewhere down the line!

 

On 9/19/17 3:50 PM, Merle Lefkoff wrote:

Gillian, all of the initial water is boiled, so some of the steam escapes from the coffeemaker, and some of the rest is in the wet grounds in the filter basket.  There may well be something else happening, but this accounts for some of it.

 

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

What on earth happens to some of the coffe when I make it drop style? I prepare 6-8 cups so as if someone stops by they can have a bit as well.

But then it only gives a bit over 4-5 cups.

 

Does some invisible dwarf drink a bit of it before it gets to the Kareff(sp)? oO

 

I am genuinly perplexed by this.^_^ 

 

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Saint Paul University

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[Gillian Densmore]

Mmm and today's batch had more flavor 

On Sep 20, 2017 1:52 PM, "Nick Thompson" <[hidden email]> wrote:

Ok, so, I did the experiment.

 

In a ten cup coffee maker I took a cup of water and pre soaked the grounds, taking off what dribbled through and pouring it back through until I had saturated the grounds.  The the grounds required a little short of a cup to saturate.  Then I put ten cups of water in the coffeemaker and let it rip.  I got ten cups of coffee out of it. The Densmore effect is due to the grounds.  Qed.

 

N

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gillian Densmore
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 10:22 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

 

Hmmmm... well fortunatly Iike fun colorful socks... now if they show up full coffee been... 

 

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Steven A Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

Ooops... the "reply-to" on the list reflector seems not to be the list by default, so this just went to Merle the first time!

Gil -

I don't use an automated coffee maker often, but when I do (e.g. motel or visiting a friend) I forget that the filling system is measured in 8 oz cups but my expectations are closer to a 12 ounce mugfull, so 4 cups of water in yields something closer to 2.5 mugs out and of course if I"m on the west coast, the mugs are 16 ouncers which REALLY aggravates the situation!

 - Steve

PS.  a more whimsical answer is that you can probably expect to find the extra coffee in your laundry from time to time and some mismatched socks in your coffeemaker somewhere down the line!

 

On 9/19/17 3:50 PM, Merle Lefkoff wrote:

Gillian, all of the initial water is boiled, so some of the steam escapes from the coffeemaker, and some of the rest is in the wet grounds in the filter basket.  There may well be something else happening, but this accounts for some of it.

 

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

What on earth happens to some of the coffe when I make it drop style? I prepare 6-8 cups so as if someone stops by they can have a bit as well.

But then it only gives a bit over 4-5 cups.

 

Does some invisible dwarf drink a bit of it before it gets to the Kareff(sp)? oO

 

I am genuinly perplexed by this.^_^ 

 

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Saint Paul University

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

 

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[Steve Smith]

> That’s a quantum effect, right?
Quantum Tunneling, modified by a spell corrector to be "Quantum
Tunneling" which invokes the adjacent possible, implemented by Douglas
Adams' "Infinite Improbability Drive".

If you find soggy socks in your coffee (or vice-versa), it is likely
that a Dolphin was flitting about in the nearby spacetime.

BTW, I grew up among cowboys who claimed that was how they washed their
socks, by filling them with coffee grounds to dip in the kettle on the
fire to make coffee... after breakfast, just turn the sock inside out
and let it dry in the sun and you are good to go....   choice of sock to
use is based on even/odd days for left/right.     I think they were
pulling my leg?

Or just trying to keep me from drinking up their coffee!

>
> --Barry
>
>
> On 19 Sep 2017, at 19:57, Steven A Smith wrote:
>
>> PS.  a more whimsical answer is that you can probably expect to find
>> the extra coffee in your laundry from time to time and some
>> mismatched socks in your coffeemaker somewhere down the line!
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[Steve Smith]

NST -

I still contend that a more dominant effect is not the "lost water" but the apples/oranges of *filling* by 8oz cups and *drinking* by 10-16 oz cups...

Just sayin'

- SAS

On 9/20/17 1:52 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:

Ok, so, I did the experiment.

 

In a ten cup coffee maker I took a cup of water and pre soaked the grounds, taking off what dribbled through and pouring it back through until I had saturated the grounds.  The the grounds required a little short of a cup to saturate.  Then I put ten cups of water in the coffeemaker and let it rip.  I got ten cups of coffee out of it. The Densmore effect is due to the grounds.  Qed.

 

N

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gillian Densmore
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 10:22 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

 

Hmmmm... well fortunatly Iike fun colorful socks... now if they show up full coffee been... 

 

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Steven A Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

Ooops... the "reply-to" on the list reflector seems not to be the list by default, so this just went to Merle the first time!

Gil -

I don't use an automated coffee maker often, but when I do (e.g. motel or visiting a friend) I forget that the filling system is measured in 8 oz cups but my expectations are closer to a 12 ounce mugfull, so 4 cups of water in yields something closer to 2.5 mugs out and of course if I"m on the west coast, the mugs are 16 ouncers which REALLY aggravates the situation!

 - Steve

PS.  a more whimsical answer is that you can probably expect to find the extra coffee in your laundry from time to time and some mismatched socks in your coffeemaker somewhere down the line!

 

On 9/19/17 3:50 PM, Merle Lefkoff wrote:

Gillian, all of the initial water is boiled, so some of the steam escapes from the coffeemaker, and some of the rest is in the wet grounds in the filter basket.  There may well be something else happening, but this accounts for some of it.

 

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

What on earth happens to some of the coffe when I make it drop style? I prepare 6-8 cups so as if someone stops by they can have a bit as well.

But then it only gives a bit over 4-5 cups.

 

Does some invisible dwarf drink a bit of it before it gets to the Kareff(sp)? oO

 

I am genuinly perplexed by this.^_^ 

 

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[Gillian Densmore]

So I repeated Nicks experiment on the Densmore Coffe Effect (the one where some silly imp has some not the: run around the block or get inspired to do fun things.)

I think Nich and steve are both right on this one. ^_^   

Hmm so does adding water discourage sprites and dwarfs from creating a quatum tunnel to socks where the coffe goes?

Or is it as Merdle and you suspect adding water to coffe grounds gets water into the dry beans and also help the machine work? ^_^

As a follow up question: Being the good Norse+Iriish person I am I prefer blends of Arabica+Esspresso+Robusto. Rubusto is weirdly hard to find but doesn't taste like Freds Burnt What was that.?

Adding water to the grounds somehow gives Trader Joes Smooth Morning blend a nice smooth flavor. Any guesses to Why?  I joke their's some Quantom effect going on. :P

Might it  have to do with steam (in the basket?) and or the basket having a extra cup or so somehow rounds out the flavors? 

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Nick Thompson <[hidden email]> wrote:

Ok, so, I did the experiment.

 

In a ten cup coffee maker I took a cup of water and pre soaked the grounds, taking off what dribbled through and pouring it back through until I had saturated the grounds.  The the grounds required a little short of a cup to saturate.  Then I put ten cups of water in the coffeemaker and let it rip.  I got ten cups of coffee out of it. The Densmore effect is due to the grounds.  Qed.

 

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Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

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From: Friam [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gillian Densmore
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 10:22 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Wimsical silly question re: coffee making

 

Hmmmm... well fortunatly Iike fun colorful socks... now if they show up full coffee been... 

 

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Steven A Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

Ooops... the "reply-to" on the list reflector seems not to be the list by default, so this just went to Merle the first time!

Gil -

I don't use an automated coffee maker often, but when I do (e.g. motel or visiting a friend) I forget that the filling system is measured in 8 oz cups but my expectations are closer to a 12 ounce mugfull, so 4 cups of water in yields something closer to 2.5 mugs out and of course if I"m on the west coast, the mugs are 16 ouncers which REALLY aggravates the situation!

 - Steve

PS.  a more whimsical answer is that you can probably expect to find the extra coffee in your laundry from time to time and some mismatched socks in your coffeemaker somewhere down the line!

 

On 9/19/17 3:50 PM, Merle Lefkoff wrote:

Gillian, all of the initial water is boiled, so some of the steam escapes from the coffeemaker, and some of the rest is in the wet grounds in the filter basket.  There may well be something else happening, but this accounts for some of it.

 

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Gillian Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

What on earth happens to some of the coffe when I make it drop style? I prepare 6-8 cups so as if someone stops by they can have a bit as well.

But then it only gives a bit over 4-5 cups.

 

Does some invisible dwarf drink a bit of it before it gets to the Kareff(sp)? oO

 

I am genuinly perplexed by this.^_^ 

 

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