Will Biden Absolve Trump’s Criminality in the Name of ‘National Unity’?

[gepr]

To those who think we should "unify" with the abusers.

https://bylinetimes.com/2020/11/16/will-biden-absolve-trumps-criminality-in-the-name-of-national-unity/
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[Marcus G. Daniels]

It is naïve to think there will be a good-faith conversation, so quietly taking as many thought leaders off the board from Trumpland is a worthy goal.  Ideally their reputations would be irretrievably damaged by media scrutiny as the indictments came down, but nothing they have done so far has apparently offended their followers.   Drama tends to suit their purposes.   So it seems to me justice is icing on the cake.  

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[Eric Charles-2]

For those not used to the reading order of twitter clips, the prompt here is Mitch McConnell tweeting "My latest Op-Ed: Will Dems work with us, or simply put partisan politics ahead of the country?"

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 5:49 PM Marcus Daniels <[hidden email]> wrote:

It is naïve to think there will be a good-faith conversation, so quietly taking as many thought leaders off the board from Trumpland is a worthy goal.  Ideally their reputations would be irretrievably damaged by media scrutiny as the indictments came down, but nothing they have done so far has apparently offended their followers.   Drama tends to suit their purposes.   So it seems to me justice is icing on the cake. 

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Subject: [FRIAM] Will Biden Absolve Trump’s Criminality in the Name of ‘National Unity’?

To those who think we should "unify" with the abusers.

https://bylinetimes.com/2020/11/16/will-biden-absolve-trumps-criminality-in-the-name-of-national-unity/
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[gepr]

What galls me is the idea that *accountability* is somehow partisan. McConnell and his ilk, maybe even Barr, are pushing aside norms to game the system. And that's fine to some extent. If we don't do something about the nomination stalling tactic, emoluments clause, electoral college, etc. that's the typical stupidity of trying to execute by committee.

But, presumably, some of the actions were actually illegal. Even the most hardcore Trumpian should be willing to accept that we have to go through some sort of prosecutorial triage and decide what was a crime and what wasn't, what's worth prosecuting and what's not, etc.  ... not some Benghazi-style, endless tongue wagging, but a relatively swift triage by a committee of experienced, relatively neutral AGs (or is it AsG?). We already have both the Mueller report and it's sibling released by the Rs. And we have bullet lists put together by various outlets to cover other domains. Such a committee could triage that in a month or two, I'd think. Any particular action that survived that triage could be considered for further investigation.

The prior *model* used by the triage committee to make these value judgments would be: the health of our democracy. If a given action isn't a clear threat to that, then it's cut from the list. If it's all cut from the list, then fine. Print the justifications in the damn newspaper. End the committee. Move on.

I don't care if Trump goes to jail. I care about the damage Trump2 would do.

On 11/18/20 5:27 AM, Eric Charles wrote:

> For those not used to the reading order of twitter clips, the prompt here is Mitch McConnell tweeting "My latest Op-Ed: Will Dems work with us, or simply put partisan politics ahead of the country?"
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> <mailto:[hidden email]>
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> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 5:49 PM Marcus Daniels <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
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>     It is naïve to think there will be a good-faith conversation, so quietly taking as many thought leaders off the board from Trumpland is a worthy goal.  Ideally their reputations would be irretrievably damaged by media scrutiny as the indictments came down, but nothing they have done so far has apparently offended their followers.   Drama tends to suit their purposes.   So it seems to me justice is icing on the cake. 
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>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Friam <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> On Behalf Of ? glen
>     Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:17 PM
>     To: FriAM <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>     Subject: [FRIAM] Will Biden Absolve Trump’s Criminality in the Name of ‘National Unity’?
>
>     To those who think we should "unify" with the abusers.
>
>     https://bylinetimes.com/2020/11/16/will-biden-absolve-trumps-criminality-in-the-name-of-national-unity/ <https://bylinetimes.com/2020/11/16/will-biden-absolve-trumps-criminality-in-the-name-of-national-unity/>

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[Marcus G. Daniels]

Here at the tire shop in Berkeley and none of the staff have masks.   Elderly customer sitting inside.   It is a whole different universe.

> On Nov 18, 2020, at 7:21 AM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> What galls me is the idea that *accountability* is somehow partisan. McConnell and his ilk, maybe even Barr, are pushing aside norms to game the system. And that's fine to some extent. If we don't do something about the nomination stalling tactic, emoluments clause, electoral college, etc. that's the typical stupidity of trying to execute by committee.
>
> But, presumably, some of the actions were actually illegal. Even the most hardcore Trumpian should be willing to accept that we have to go through some sort of prosecutorial triage and decide what was a crime and what wasn't, what's worth prosecuting and what's not, etc.  ... not some Benghazi-style, endless tongue wagging, but a relatively swift triage by a committee of experienced, relatively neutral AGs (or is it AsG?). We already have both the Mueller report and it's sibling released by the Rs. And we have bullet lists put together by various outlets to cover other domains. Such a committee could triage that in a month or two, I'd think. Any particular action that survived that triage could be considered for further investigation.
>
> The prior *model* used by the triage committee to make these value judgments would be: the health of our democracy. If a given action isn't a clear threat to that, then it's cut from the list. If it's all cut from the list, then fine. Print the justifications in the damn newspaper. End the committee. Move on.
>
> I don't care if Trump goes to jail. I care about the damage Trump2 would do.
>
>> On 11/18/20 5:27 AM, Eric Charles wrote:
>> For those not used to the reading order of twitter clips, the prompt here is Mitch McConnell tweeting "My latest Op-Ed: Will Dems work with us, or simply put partisan politics ahead of the country?"
>>
>> image.png
>>
>>
>> <mailto:[hidden email]>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 5:49 PM Marcus Daniels <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>>    It is naïve to think there will be a good-faith conversation, so quietly taking as many thought leaders off the board from Trumpland is a worthy goal.  Ideally their reputations would be irretrievably damaged by media scrutiny as the indictments came down, but nothing they have done so far has apparently offended their followers.   Drama tends to suit their purposes.   So it seems to me justice is icing on the cake.
>>
>>    -----Original Message-----
>>    From: Friam <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> On Behalf Of ? glen
>>    Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:17 PM
>>    To: FriAM <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>>    Subject: [FRIAM] Will Biden Absolve Trump’s Criminality in the Name of ‘National Unity’?
>>
>>    To those who think we should "unify" with the abusers.
>>
>>    https://bylinetimes.com/2020/11/16/will-biden-absolve-trumps-criminality-in-the-name-of-national-unity/ <https://bylinetimes.com/2020/11/16/will-biden-absolve-trumps-criminality-in-the-name-of-national-unity/>
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[gepr]

Yep. That's how I feel at most of the places I visit. The employees at the (truck) canopy place only wear them because they have to ... with their nose sticking out the top. And the lady at the toy store wore hers properly, but pulls it down to her chin when she looks straight at you to answer a question. And the people at the motorcycle shop and a store where you buy work boots/gloves and such do everything they can to avoid/forget any of it. They're clearly not the batsh¡t people trolling hospitals with cameras trying to get proof that the ICUs are actually empty. <https://www.ksl.com/article/50047970/utah-valley-hospital-strained-by-conspiracy-theorists-trying-to-enter-icu>

But my ability to model any of them is clearly inadequate.

On 11/18/20 10:22 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> Here at the tire shop in Berkeley and none of the staff have masks.   Elderly customer sitting inside.   It is a whole different universe.

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