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Tom Johnson

Why The Internet Needs IPFS Before It’s Too Late

Article: http://techcrunch.com/2015/10/04/why-the-internet-needs-ipfs-before-its-too-late/

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Owen Densmore

Re: Why The Internet Needs IPFS Before It’s Too Late

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Sorta a practical, semi domain specific, peer to peer? What attracted you to this? It seems like it could be a game changer.

It'd be cool if the entire industry decided that pipes are obsolete and too expensive to maintain ..sorta a torrent approach.

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Article: http://techcrunch.com/2015/10/04/why-the-internet-needs-ipfs-before-its-too-late/

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Tom Johnson

Re: Why The Internet Needs IPFS Before It’s Too Late

Attraction? If true, potentially faster and cheaper for starters.

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On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Owen Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

Sorta a practical, semi domain specific, peer to peer? What attracted you to this? It seems like it could be a game changer.

It'd be cool if the entire industry decided that pipes are obsolete and too expensive to maintain ..sorta a torrent approach.

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Article: http://techcrunch.com/2015/10/04/why-the-internet-needs-ipfs-before-its-too-late/

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Marcus G. Daniels

Re: Why The Internet Needs IPFS Before It’s Too Late

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There's also StorJ which is already tradable.

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Why The Internet Needs IPFS Before It’s Too Late

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There will need to be a change in the way that ISPs work for this to succeed. Right now, ISPs assume that most users download about 10 times the amount of data that they upload. With typical web content, this is normally true - the user requests a web-page and the web-page is served from various points. There's a lot more in the web-page than in the request.

If the ISPs continue to architect their networks in this way, IPFS will not reach its potential as the user end-nodes won't be able to serve cached content to other user end-nodes - after the ISP cap has been reached. The end result will be that computers serving up content will be somewhat closer but, at best, they will be just outside the ISP user infrastructure.

The advocates of IPFS need to convince the Comcasts and other ISPs that it will benefit them. Right now, they are all hitting the wall with respect to backbone bandwidth - that's why video streaming is not good most evenings during "primetime". If the ISPs will let their customers have identical up and down limits (and maybe not count traffic not outside of the ISP), they can manage their backbone bandwidth problem.

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Owen Densmore

Re: [EXTERNAL] Why The Internet Needs IPFS Before It’s Too Late

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NPR's OnPoint has had several internet/web discussions recently.

One was on new approaches to providing access & reasonable bandwidth. In some areas (South Africa was mentioned) you can buy a phone and data cheaply, but only access Facebook and a few others .. restricted use for ad revenue for the given sites.

Another was on ad blockers becoming a serious threat to content providers using ads to pay for their service, especially with the iPhone now being able to install ad blockers. This is leading to Google Contributor https://www.google.com/contributor/welcome/ which lets you ad block but still contribute via a monthly fee. Even weirder, the ad blockers let some ads thru if they pay the ad block service!

The latter discussion was particularly interesting due to focusing on fixing the annoyances. On mobile, in particular, the bandwidth and screen size of the ads are horrific. Google is apparently initializing another initiative to require ads to be sensible and mobile friendly.

-- Owen

Gillian Densmore

Re: [EXTERNAL] Why The Internet Needs IPFS Before It’s Too Late

I heart add blocking It's aholery to to send my phone that isn't the apropiate medium adds. It probably costs me a little, I can't read them even if I wanted to. I want to send and recieve calls, and texts, first I don't care about Weilen Yutny, Max Awsomes or Johny Stellers App For that while i'm placing a call, Googles Add Sense on Android Lolipop on this Nexus I'm trying out injects adds where I know for fact they aint there. I certainly hope there's a better way to go about doing things.

IPFS looks interesting. Didn't MeshNetwork, Metrocom, and Richet and possible SGI at one point something simillar in the 90's(alas the good ol days to a point)

In that that as I understood they'd talk to basically anything with a radio, and that the more of them you had the faster the real-world speeds were, and potentially more reliable networking with more of them as well.

This I'm assuming is an improvement?

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Owen Densmore <[hidden email]> wrote:

NPR's OnPoint has had several internet/web discussions recently.

One was on new approaches to providing access & reasonable bandwidth. In some areas (South Africa was mentioned) you can buy a phone and data cheaply, but only access Facebook and a few others .. restricted use for ad revenue for the given sites.

Another was on ad blockers becoming a serious threat to content providers using ads to pay for their service, especially with the iPhone now being able to install ad blockers. This is leading to Google Contributor https://www.google.com/contributor/welcome/ which lets you ad block but still contribute via a monthly fee. Even weirder, the ad blockers let some ads thru if they pay the ad block service!

The latter discussion was particularly interesting due to focusing on fixing the annoyances. On mobile, in particular, the bandwidth and screen size of the ads are horrific. Google is apparently initializing another initiative to require ads to be sensible and mobile friendly.

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Russell Standish-2

Re: [EXTERNAL] Why The Internet Needs IPFS Before It’s Too Late

On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 05:16:59PM -0600, Gillian Densmore wrote:
> I heart add blocking It's aholery to to send my phone that isn't the
> apropiate medium adds. It probably costs me a little, I can't read them
> even if I wanted to. I want to send and recieve calls, and texts,
first I

If that's all you want to do, why not just go with a "feature" phone,
whose features are exactly that? No need for a smartphone. Spammers
are unlikely to send you much SMS spam in my experience.

Cheers

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Gillian Densmore

Re: [EXTERNAL] Why The Internet Needs IPFS Before It’s Too Late

I'm not one for spam, now a good pitza, or some beaf stew with taters and gravy and a good mead especially while winter is coming, that hits the spot.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Russell Standish <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 05:16:59PM -0600, Gillian Densmore wrote:
> I heart add blocking It's aholery to to send my phone that isn't the
> apropiate medium adds. It probably costs me a little, I can't read them
> even if I wanted to. I want to send and recieve calls, and texts,
first I

If that's all you want to do, why not just go with a "feature" phone,
whose features are exactly that? No need for a smartphone. Spammers
are unlikely to send you much SMS spam in my experience.

Cheers

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